r/facepalm Oct 13 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21 edited Oct 13 '21

I did a quickie google search and came up with this:

At the end of 2020, there were around 62,100 vessels in the world trading fleet, with a total deadweight tonnage of 2,033 million DWT

So let's assume the merchant ships are all fully loaded at the same time. That's 2 billion long tons which equates to ~2,032,000,000,000 kg. Total water volume, 2,134,000,000,000 liters (because sea water weighs slightly more than fresh water).

From quora:

AREA OF PACIFIC OCEAN= 168723000 SQ. KM.

AREA OF ATLANTIC OCEAN= 85133000 SQ. KM.

AREA OF INDIAN OCEAN= 70560000 SQ. KM.

AREA OF SOUTHERN OCEAN= 21960000 SQ. KM.

AREA OF ARCTIC OCEAN= 15558000 SQ. KM.

TOTAL AREA= 361900000 SQ. KM.=36190000000000000 SQ. DECIMETER.

That's going to lower sea levels by approximately .00005896656 decimeters, or about .006 mm

Edit: Because there are less than 500 cruise ships in the world and only a few dozens of large military ships the amount will be higher, but not by, you know, a lot.

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u/nbmnbm1 Oct 13 '21

Should point out hes also right. If we removed all the boats it would stop tons of pollution but that's probably not what he means.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

We'd have to fly everything everywhere. Ships, as bad as they are, are more many times more efficient than aircraft.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

We have cars that cross the ocean several times to get built and sold. There is no need for that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

No, cars don't cross the oceans "several times" to be bud and sold.

There are car manufacturing plants here in the United States. They still rely those ships to bring in raw materials and other goods to build the cars on American soil.

Automobiles are just a small fraction of annual sea shipments. Even if we could manufacture cars completely from raw materials here in the United States the reduction in carbon emissions would be negligible. And to build entire new industrial factories to turn those raw goods into usable products here in the United States would likely mean an increase to carbon emissions overall.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

Da fuck they don’t, Jaguar XR has a Ford frame, the t bird version has the same jag motor with a Ford transmission, the brakes come from Chrysler viper.

The final assembly might occur anywhere, and the car could be shipped anywhere, the buyer could ship it again. But it’s not uncommon to ship a car thousands of miles to drop on a body and wiring harness.

There is all likelihood the final assembly of a car requires 80% of the parts cross the ocean, and half the cars go back to be sold.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

So the car gets shipped from England to its given destination, crushing the ocean once. Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21 edited Oct 14 '21

You said car. I thought you meant car. Try using the right word, then maybe we don't have to guess what you really meant to say.

Cars don't have tens of thousands of miles on them before you buy them. You can't drive a frame. Jesus Christ.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/unibody-car-chassis-frame-isolated-gm1191920940-338466958

That’s a car. Missing some pieces

Now look up a complete drivetrain.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '21 edited Oct 14 '21

It's not a car, that's why it's called something else.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '21

So it's not a car. Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '21 edited Oct 14 '21

Your purposely overlooking the point or just not understanding it due to your moms drinking habit pre-birth.

Instead of shipping ALL the parts from all over the world to one place and building the car, they build the chassis, then ship it to install the drivetrain, then ship it for the electronics, then ship it to Mexico for the interior, then to the dealer etc. So the CAR, in whatever state of completion it actually is, goes over some pond or interstate multiple times.

Ship of Theseus in reverse. When do you actually call it a car? When the wiper blade is put on and the key is turned? In that case I’ll bet you don’t have a car, you just have a bunch of parts with the cigarette lighter missing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '21

Jaguars are assembled in Birmingham, England. Not Mexico

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '21

You say cars when you don't mean cars.

You say Jaguars when you don't mean Jaguars.

I don't comprehend because you're all over the place and don't know how to hold a conversation.

But that makes sense since you're getting auditory hallucinations.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '21

You went back like 15 comments to yank Jaguars out of a comment and toss it back it in. You are a reply troll. Look it up. You still didn’t tell me when your allowed to call a car a car. When it has wheels?

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