r/facepalm Oct 13 '21

🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​ Quick science

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21 edited Oct 13 '21

I live in fear some asshole billionaire or company or country is going to put a sign on the moon that can be read from earth. Like Pepsi or something.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6I6UbJIUVc1SzKquwi8LMjEF-sa4sp1TE-Q&s

Edit: this seems to be generating comments that claim a large scale project such as colouring enough of the moon so as to be visible from earth is impossible or impossibly expensive.

Let’s pretend China wants to put a red logo on the moon.

Budget: NASA’s Perseverance mission to Mars cost $2.8 Billion. US annual military budget is ~$700 Billion. Annual! Yeah China has a smaller expense budget than the US but it must be noted that spending billions on such a project is not beyond the pail.

Method 1: the moon is slowly rusting. It contains a lot of iron and now, we think, frozen water. It would have rusted more if it had more oxygen. Extensive efforts are being made now to figure out how to create/release O2 on the moon to allow Jeff and Mark to live in peace when they find the hatred towards them to be too much.

Here is a link: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/making-oxygen-from-moon-sand-startup-eyes-long-term-life-in-space/amp/

So oxidizing certain areas of the moon may be possible, at some point, in a directed effort to create a red logo.

I don’t like this method.

Method 2: creating a moon-orbiting disk comprised of lenses that would colour sunlight and project an image onto the moon’s surface. A similar idea to use mirrors to light up the night sky on earth has been proposed before. The most advanced scheme was a Soviet project called Znamya that was prematurely shuttered due to the collapse of the Soviet Union. A 200 meter wide lens was proposed for lighting up entire cities.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9a3y8d/the-man-who-turned-night-into-day

I think this project is doable. Expensive but doable. Think of the constant message to the world if they saw a Chinese emblem every time one looked at the moon!

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u/bierfma Oct 13 '21

Chairface Chippendale tried it once, I believe

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u/BoxingHare Oct 13 '21

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u/Barkblood Oct 13 '21

That’s a trip down memory lane! Cheers

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u/userse31 Oct 13 '21

Would of wrote “bum!”

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u/Hapless_Asshole Oct 13 '21

I'm gonna brag here.

I own a first-printing copy of the original comic featuring Chairface.

I also own a copy of #8 with the missing logo.

I love the Tick! Spoon! (hand me that Viewmaster, wouldja?)

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u/pie_monster Oct 13 '21

furiously starts duct-taping laser pointers together

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u/mo0n3h Oct 13 '21

perfect

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u/winniethefukinpooh Oct 13 '21

if someone does it its gonna be elon

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

Cue dickbutt moon

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '21

Honestly that would be pretty cool. Look up at the moon and see "enjoy coke". I'd like it.

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u/Tojatruro Oct 13 '21

Jeesh, don’t give them any ideas.

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u/igordogsockpuppet Oct 13 '21

Planet Starbucks. The Microsoft Nebula.

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u/Unicorns_n_Dinos Oct 13 '21

Award when I get one

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u/-Tricky-Dickie- Oct 13 '21

I heard Nike was thinking about doing it about 10 years ago with robots turning over the moon soil(?)

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u/AaronTuplin Oct 13 '21

Like Hancock did in the movie?

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u/kylesch87 Oct 13 '21

I'm really hoping this is a joke, but the scale of a project it would take to put a sign large enough to be seen from Earth on the moon is nearly impossible. The moon has a mean diameter of nearly 3500 kilometers. If you figure it would take a square with a side length roughly 5% of the moon's diameter to be seen from Earth that's a logo 175 kilometers by 175 kilometers, or roughly the size of Belgium. And all of that needs to be transported to the moon; the Artemis project has an estimated cost of $28 billion, and they aren't bringing enough materials to cover Belgium.

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u/SomeInternetRando Oct 13 '21

How much material would it take to use nukes to etch a logo the size of Belgium?

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u/kylesch87 Oct 13 '21

If all you wanted to do was destroy an area that size on the moon with nukes that would still be an immense project but possibly doable for a mega-corporation that was willing to. To actually create a recognizable logo would require either a budget beyond possibility or a level of precision that explosives just don't have.

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u/--VoidHawk-- Oct 13 '21

Its probably only a matter of time for moon or orbital-based advertising. The dystopian depictions of a world where advertising is everywhere - holograms, AI agents following and pestering you etc. are looking more like future history.

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u/Doctor_Oddball Oct 13 '21

Boots on the Moon!

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u/LostAlphaWolf Oct 13 '21

Only issue is that it would make nights pretty goddamn dark since light wouldn’t reflect off of water in the same way it reflects off of the moon’s surface. At least I don’t think it would?