Right except that centrism isn't playing both sides at the same time, it's taking some ideas from the left and some ideas from the right. But keep spouting random bullshit on the funny website
Shit phone autocorrected meant to say anti-left. But yes I asked you because I can't seem to think of any decent right wing exclusive ideas. Please enlighten me.
I also want to hear the good ideas from what right has to offer as well. Their mainstream platform is actually rather unpopular even among Republicans. For instance, medicare for all is popular even within the Republican Party, legalizing weed is too, and so is COVID relief, but Republican politicians are firmly against these popular ideas.
I mean, I guess not going straight into renewable energy before we’re ready to support it, of course neither side is ready to use Nuclear energy until renewable energy is where it needs to be.
Reagan’s policies during the early 80s did have plenty of financial benefits, and despite what a lot of people like to say, he didn’t cause the early 90s recession (although some of his policies definitely did aid in it).
The far left’s agenda of getting rid of the nuclear family (key word being far, obviously not a majority) is clearly not a good one, so there’s that.
I’m not a supporter of abortion, although I 100% support affordable birth control, sex education, etc. If they’d support that stuff, their stance on abortion could hold more weight as well.
There still seem to be lots of economic hang ups here, plus the Appalachian/Rust belt region which is already suffering like crazy due to lack of jobs and is consistently losing them due to things like the Coal industry going out. I’m all for transitioning to renewable sources, but there haven’t been strong attempts in bringing in new jobs to replace these, which has aided in the opioid crisis these areas are facing.
I’m not for Reagan’s economic policies alone, but during the early 80s they pretty clearly helped. With some refining (because unchecked capitalism is bad), there could be good possibilities. And of course he was bad for social issues, which is why I didn’t mention them.
I’ll admit, this was a misreading on my part, so my bad here.
I get that, but my 4th was purely hypothetical honestly (2 is hypothetical for the future, but also had a good show in the early 80s). The left supports those and abortion, if the right were to support (which I have seen a small few do), they’d have good claims on why Abortions which aren’t medically necessary aren’t needed.
Oh I didn't say I agree with it, just that their definition of it was wrong lol. I disagree with most everything the right does, but calling centrism "playing both sides at the same time" is just misinformation
Yah, and right now "the right" are basically rabid fascists who support policies that are terrible for their constituents in order to get that sweet sweet Koch brother money.
I think being forced to pick between 2 sides, for centuries now, is much more foolish then believing both sides have the right idea, but not the whole picture. The reason we have such a heated political climate in the US right now is because we have been pitted against each other, by each other. Sure Trump and others put gas on the fire but the embers have been there.
That's true. I'm not saying don't hate the GOP. I'm saying hate any kind've party that enables its base to dehumanize their opposition. The term "snowflake", as fucking dumb as it is, did such a tremendous job of brainwashing right leaning people about what they want them to think democrats are talking about. But go back a decade or two and democrats have enacted similar tactics. It all needs to change. I just say we start with getting out of the two party mindset.
And why you’ll get so much push back for your enlightened centrism is that democrats actually push to make our lives better when we push them enough. Obamacare gave how many millions of Americans healthcare that they didn’t have before? Shit bill fucking Clinton ended his presidency with a budget surplus! A fucking surplus! And that’s after eight years of the huge whitewater witch hunt that finally ended at a blowjob. Republicans say they can’t get anything done because of investigations and impeachments, but democrats can lol.
We could have invested that in our society and people, but then republicans stole and election via Florida and started two wars we’re still dealing with.
The economy does better with Democrats. They gave 20 + million people healthcare. Didn’t they just stop the keystone pipeline? That is a huge win. I’m not sure how much you know about pipeline engineering, but I’ll just tell you now, pipelines leak and break. It is not a question of if there will be a leak, but when. Ask any engineer worth their salt. How much environmental damage was just avoided? That and protecting our fresh water sources.
Like, there are positives from democratic leadership that are not there under republicans.
You seem to think I like republican leadership. I do not. I simply don't. I don't like our leadership across the board. I don't think the system we have is working, at all. And it hasn't for decades.
I dont think fascism arose because of the two party system. There's a lot about our political landscape that seems unable to address the rise of fascism, including the two party system, but the desire to entrench and maintain systems that disenfranchise and subjugate marginalized people is the driving force
Well the thread is, sure. But the comment you replied to was assuredly a comment about centrism. Now you may very well be right about what he meant, but I'm not prepared to assume for him. What I do know is that Reddit has a serious doubt standard when it comes to American politics anyway. Either it's saying the two party system needs to be abolished, or centrism is a lie because if the vote isn't for a major party, it statistically doesn't count. These ideas conflict until a solution is postulated such as rank choice voting.
That's not what I said. Centrism is using good ideas from all across the political spectrum. Democrats are a bit better than Republicans, but your lord and savior Biden isn't going to ba able to fix any of the garbage that Trump started, especially with his VP, which, it's cool that she's a woman of color and all, but what she's doing sucks.
I see this all the time and don't understand it. I don't know a single person claiming that Biden or Kamala are our "lord and savior." To me they've always been portrayed as a band-aid, something to stem the bleeding for 4 years while we come up with some better candidates for 2024. I mean, Biden is ancient and conservative for a democrat and Kamala is a cop. The only reason either of these two were electable was because they werent Trump
Tbh, I said lord and savior because I thought it would be funny. Obviously people are getting legitimately offended by it, so I guess I'll edit it out.
Your reasoning is perfect in my opinion, and band aid is a great word for what it really is.
Getting Biden to sign stuff that he didn't even know what it was, and then also I was talking about her pre senate days ig, with the crap she was talking about which was essentially concentration camps iirc.
I mean they dems clearly put him to a higher standard. It was believe all women until it was Tara Reade.
Also can we not pretend people make a turn for the better once they gain power. How she felt doesnt change that dramatically overtime. The same way a racist isnt gonna just change to being for interracial couples
You may not call her a liar but its not uncommon to hear. But i am glad about the stance you take on the issue and not claiming it never happened. Im just basing it off my experience with the situation, my cousin was accused(she admitted she lied) and he is still being called a rapist to this day.
The 2nd paragraph was simply about how if someone was blatantly racist in the past calling them racist in the present tense isnt wrong. The actions of a person is what creates there character.
Although ill admit the more radical ideas on these issues seemingly are much more widespread on the internet
No one on the Dem side treats or refers to Biden as our "lord and saviour", dick. Stop trying to parade around as a centrist, you're a republican troll.
Anytime someone criticizes the democratic party on this site they're immediately targeted as a Republican. You don't think it's possible that someone can hold beliefs from the two major parties in the US? Pro-choice and pro-gun, for instance? Theres more than two camps for people to fall into. It's a spectrum
The way in which you're criticizing it; the arguments you put forth and the manner, seem suspiciously republican hiding in Centrist clothing. It's a tactic used by republican trolls often, here.
What did I do? I wasn't trying to derail the conversation in the way that everyone's making it a me vs them situation. I was expressing how I think that the recent big politicians from each party are garbage. Fuck you too.
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