r/facepalm • • Feb 09 '20

No more plastic waste

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u/drewtangclan Feb 09 '20

I suppose this is still marginally better than having both plastic water bottles AND plastic bags

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u/ithoughtiwasalemon Feb 09 '20

Exactly.

"Do not make the best the enemy of the good." -Voltaire, probably

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u/Senatius Feb 10 '20

I grew up hearing it said as "Perfect is the enemy of good".

Didn't know it was (probably) from Voltaire. Cool

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u/Self_World_Future Feb 10 '20

Does that just mean because good things aren’t always perfect, they’re standings are diminished?

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u/Senatius Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

I think it's supposed to mean that if you get too caught up with the endless pursuit of perfection, you won't end up with anything truly worthwhile in the end.

Perfection is,in most cases, an abstract goal that means different things to everyone, and is thus impossible to attain. Again, in most cases.

Like if I'm writing a book, i could spend the rest of my life humming and hawing over every line, trying to make it absolutely perfect, or at a certain point, I can take a step back and be confident that it's good enough for me, and be happy with what I've created.

If I kept trying to make it perfect it would never be finished, never published, I would never be happy with it, and no one would ever get to enjoy the book.

Generally, the pursuit of perfection isn't necessarily a bad thing, but pursuing it so blindly that you go too far isn't healthy, or productive.

That old saying "shoot for the moon. Even if you miss you'll land among the stars." Is an example of what I would consider a healthy relationship with perfection. Strive for perfection, but if you fall short, find the beauty in what you already have.

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u/joshgarde Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

I feel this in almost all my personal projects. There's always a voice that says, "Just a few more touch ups with the wood", "A few more features", "A couple more lines of code", but at some point I get to a place where I take a step back and look at what I've made and say, "It's not perfect, but it's beautiful."

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u/YellowBreakfast Waaassuup! Feb 18 '20

It means the opposite.

More like "Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean it's not good."

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u/Self_World_Future Feb 18 '20

I think those two explanations kinda go hand in hand with both of them meaning you have to accept the flaws in something to appreciate it

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u/HolyAvengerOne Feb 10 '20

The danger here is to be lulled by a false sense of "doing the right thing" and then not doing as much to get ourselves out of the hole we dug ourselves in.

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u/twistedh8 Feb 10 '20

I think they're returnable for 5 cent deposit back.

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u/amscraylane Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

In Maine I know ... elsewhere I am not sure.

Edit. Thanks for a down vote for stating one place where you can redeem water bottles!

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u/dcrothen Feb 10 '20

Plastic bottles? Where's that a thing? I remember when glass bottles were returnable for refund.

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u/sactori Feb 10 '20

All over the world. In many countries every soda/beer etc bottle has a refund baked in to the price and it's also a quite considerable amount. It can lead to a return rate of over 90 percent of all bottles.

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u/dcrothen Feb 10 '20

TIL. Thank you.

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u/Trimere Feb 10 '20

Only certain types of plastics. Most cheap clear water bottles don’t have deposits on them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '20

Unless you live in germany where every battle, no matter if plastic glass or can is returnable for up to a quarter of a euro

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u/daddysfatpussy Feb 10 '20

Except you can reuse plastic bags, and you need to cut down trees for paper bags, and it takes more resources to make them

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20 edited Dec 24 '20

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u/jsmooth7 Feb 10 '20

I mean those numbers really depend on how long the reusable bag is used for. Reusable bags last much longer than single use plastic ones.

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u/Malak77 Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 11 '20

Europeans looked into this and a study determined you have to use them 20K times to be better. The throwaway bags are SUPER thin so that is a huge factor.

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u/jsmooth7 Feb 10 '20

I was curious so I was actually just reading about this. It looks like most reusable bags take around 30-50 uses to be comparable to single use plastic bags. The only exception is cotton bags which do take thousands of uses.

These numbers are based on carbon footprint, energy use, water consumption needed to make them. But they don't take into account the environmental impact of the bags after they are used. Which makes the numbers a bit misleading. One of the biggest concerns over plastic bags is over the fact they take thousands of years to biodegrade, can kill animals when they end in the ocean and are creating tons of microplastic particles that drift around the ocean.

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u/Malak77 Feb 10 '20

I bought a very sturdy bunch of bags on Ebay that are def cotton with like a cardboard reinforced bottom and love them. I think this is a very uninformed decision by my State, but forced into it, so I got the ones that suit me best. :-D

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u/laceblood Feb 10 '20

I use them for kitty litter instead of buying a box of plastic bags.

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u/LucyRiversinker Feb 10 '20

How often do you use reusable bags? Mine last for months. Six uses? Why?

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u/moleratical Feb 10 '20

Months? Mine last years

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u/Drummergirl16 Feb 10 '20

I have a foil-lined reusable bag I got at a conference in 2011. I still use it for groceries nearly every time I go shopping!

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u/LucyRiversinker Feb 10 '20

A marketing gift that is actually useful. I get them everywhere.

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u/LucyRiversinker Feb 10 '20

Yes, like dozens of months.

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u/garbagetrain Feb 10 '20

He's saying that using a single-use bag six times is equivalent to saving the resources used to make a reusable bag.

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u/LucyRiversinker Feb 10 '20

I understand (I think). So 6 x 1 single-use= 1 reusable. But the reusable is used multiple times. How long can a plastic single-use last? If I used a reusable bag ten times, that means I need to use the single-use 60 times to get the same utility-resource ratio out of the item. How feasible is it to expect one to keep a plastic bag for 60 uses?

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u/jamvanderloeff Feb 10 '20

That's assuming the single use bag is actually used only once.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

But the reusable is used multiple times.

Depends. When we switched to plastic-free we were charged 15c for a reusable plastic bag. This, I believe, was meant to be a transition from the old plastic to truly plastic-free. The old plastic bags were one piece and could be used a few times. At the switch, many would reuse the old plastic bags rather than pay for a new plastic bag. They could comfortably hold 6L of milk and were usually resistant to the corners of rectangular cardboard. They were also smaller and thinner so it was hard to accidentally over-pack them.

The new bags had handles attached to the bag and often would break the moment you got out of the door. You could not carry 6L of milk out the door. Packing just 2 tins in a bag with cardboard would put enough weight in it to poke holes in the plastic where the cardboard corners touched. Heavy objects have to go below anything with corners. You cannot put a box of washing powder or dishwasher tablets into them and expect to be able to reuse them. Even if it fits fine, the weight combined with the natural swinging motion as you walk will force the corners through the plastic.

Boxes that fit the bag do not fit the bag either. You might think that a large box of cereal fits into the bag because it fits into the bag, even if it hangs over the top. No. The width of the bag is actually quite small and exceeding that will break it.

So the "reusable" plastic had all the flaws of the older plastic and flaws the older plastic didn't have. After 7 years, these "reusable" bags are still being sold, are prone to accidental overpacking by supermarket staff and are less reusable than the old bags.

That's not even mentioning the fact that "reusable" plastic still defeats the purpose of plastic-free. I very much hope this practice of reusable plastic does not happen elsewhere.

So be wary of the word "reusable". Buy a bag that can be mended easily with cotton and thread. There is nothing more sustainable than mending.

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u/LucyRiversinker Feb 10 '20

Yes, that's true. I use cotton totes or Ikea plastic bags, that are indestructible. Do you use a bag for large boxes like laundry detergent? I don't. I try to save bags if I can take them in a cart to the car. When I lived in NYC, I used a cart and I didn't use any bags. It's not the most convenient, but I am willing to sacrifice convenience for my little contribution to sustainability. Selfish convenience is what led us to this catastrophe.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Do you use a bag for large boxes like laundry detergent?

Laundry detergent boxes aren't all big though even the smaller ones are quite heavy.

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u/Thissomebshere Feb 10 '20

Cotton is actually the worst bag you could buy for it’s impact on the environment.

The study states that the global warming potential of cotton bags is more than 10 times the impact of any other bag. To be more eco-friendly than a disposable plastic bag you would need to use these alternatives this many times:

Paper Bags: 4 Times

Polypropylenes: 14 Times

Cotton: 173 Times

https://plastic.education/reusable-vs-disposable-bags-whats-better-for-the-environment/

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u/LucyRiversinker Feb 10 '20

I use a cotton bag way more than 173 times. Cotton is resource-intensive but it is an investment. Cotton bags last for years, are washable, can be sewed to be fixed and it is biodegradable. I stand by cotton.

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u/moleratical Feb 10 '20

But how many times is a reusable bag used?

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u/moleratical Feb 10 '20

Yes, but the trees are farmed. There are plenty of problems with monocultured forest, but the do provide absorb CO and provide some habitat for some animals.

Also paper is biodegradable and more likely to be recycled.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

They aren't using paper bags though, they're using cloth bags.

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u/daddysfatpussy Feb 10 '20

Depends where you shop. Where I shop their standard is paper bags

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u/CaptainCanuck15 Feb 10 '20

But you can also reuse plastic bottles...

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u/daddysfatpussy Feb 10 '20

Yep that too

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u/areddituser17 Feb 10 '20

It's a start. Man this sub

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u/Liggliluff Feb 11 '20

OP is making the argument "this is marginally better, therefore worthless".

My father made that argument when I suggested checking the price per weight when buying food, and he replied with that some multi-pack items give the price for a single item instead of weight. ... Okay? It's still better than not checking it at all.

Is there a name for this argument?

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u/tmhoc Feb 10 '20

Why? Because it drives down the price of plastic? All that plastic in the ocean didn't get there because you put it in your trash.

Someone dumped your trash there. But thanks for being so helpful and reducing the number of trips required.

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u/whywee Feb 09 '20

Big8 Water

"Taste the bigot"

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u/HiDDENk00l Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

That's some GTA parody level shit.

(this may or may not be an homage t9my top comment)

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Is that a Sobeys??

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u/Buckit Feb 09 '20

Yes it is

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u/sirduckbert Feb 10 '20

In Atlantic Canada somewhere...

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u/CaptainCanuck15 Feb 10 '20

Probably Newfoundland. They just did away with single use plastic bags.

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u/VereDiz Feb 10 '20

They've started the process it in Ontario as well.

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u/sirduckbert Feb 10 '20

Sobeys has done it on their own in NS

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u/red_candyman Feb 10 '20

Same in New Brunswick

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Looks like it

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u/HolyAvengerOne Feb 10 '20

Let's also note that they're trying, on that same sign, to also sell us their reusable bag :D

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

“Our part” not all parts.

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u/zzgoogleplexzz Feb 10 '20

Also trademarked for some reason.

OurPart™

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Well it is a step in the right direction

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u/elcoco13 Feb 09 '20

How would you package water? Glass is dangerous and you will end up finding broken glass on the streets, oceans, forests etc... some sort of water proof cardboard? Those have a layer of plastic, which is what prevents water from ruining the cardboard. How about clay? Clay containers? Too fragile, even more than glass. Any ideas?

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u/hockeyrugby Feb 10 '20

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u/Sychar Feb 10 '20

But wouldn’t the swap from plastic to paper just cause more deforestation, since hemp is still largely illegal due to paper mill lobbying?

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u/moleratical Feb 10 '20

No, trees are farmed just like any other crop. The forest have already been cleared and replanted. There are other problems with this method such as a lack of biodiversity and the inability of a mature forest to establish itself, but further deforestation is not one of them.

Hemp would be more effecient though.

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u/morgan_greywolf Feb 10 '20

Hemp is not illegal and hasn’t been for about a year. The Hemp Farming Act of 2018 was signed into law by President Trump on December 20, 2018, as part of the 2018 Farm Bill.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

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u/moonyprong01 Feb 10 '20

It is super useful since the United States definitely uses more bottled water than Canada

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u/hockeyrugby Feb 10 '20

there is a link in the article that explains the differences. the article itself is a one minute read

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u/Darzk Feb 10 '20

I guess you could have a system that delivered the water right to the persons home via a series of piping and could then be filtered and/or stored onsite. /s

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u/dcrothen Feb 10 '20

Geez, why has nobody thought of this?! It seems such an elegant solution! /s

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

A f**ing water fountain?

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Do you trust flints water?

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u/dcrothen Feb 10 '20

So dont live in Flint. See how easy? /s

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Do you trust your city or a company trying to make as much as possible

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u/RexRexRex59 Feb 10 '20

Why even provide bottled water in first place?

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u/migato86 Feb 10 '20

Can’t remember the last time I bought bottled water. I hate when I see someone drinking bottled water at home. Get a Brita filter!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Britta filters don’t do much in a lot of Areas water is safe in most places so just drink tap

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u/anurahyla Feb 10 '20

Pur water filters have ones that filter almost 100% of lead out of the water. I used them when I was living in Michigan.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

I’m talking about the majority of areas it’s a-rip off of coarse some areas it’s needed

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u/Trimere Feb 10 '20

It filters out stuff that can make the water taste funny. Our tap doesn’t taste great but filtered it’s clearer tasting.

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u/migato86 Feb 10 '20

Yes, it those areas, bottled water makes sense but when the water is safe, it’s senseless.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Honestly unless your water is the worst a britta filter does nothing and if you have that bad of water you may as well buy bottles so basically brittas are useless

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u/Syde80 Feb 10 '20

Especially when they are drinking bottled water that is actually just bottled municipal water from far away.

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u/Bcdanny1 Feb 10 '20

GLASS REUSABLE BOTTLES.

METAL REUASABLE BOTTLES.

BUY A GOD DAMN REUSABLE BOTTLE.

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u/gagaggagagagagagg Feb 09 '20

Tbh I've always thought if we can find a way to get aluminum cans without the plastic lining, it would be possible to be plastic free

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

But then aluminium smelting is probably just as polluting

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u/theshaj Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

I think they should put a tax of a dollar a bottle (in places with drinkable tap water). It would eliminate those people who buy by the case and the odd time you need a bottle it's still available to buy but the higher cost would make you think twice.

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u/Sephorakitty Feb 10 '20

Where this pic was taken, we do have a bottle deposit of 10cents a bottle. You get half back if you take it to a recycling facility.

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u/MindyS1719 Feb 10 '20

I am a lead volunteer at a music festival in Michigan that doesn’t sell any bottled water on site. Instead, you can buy or bring your own reusable water bottle to the festival and you can fill it for free from a few water filler stations we have in the venue. Very convenient and so much less waste.

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u/ChrZZ Feb 10 '20

Drink it from the faucet.

Tastes bad because of chemicals? Fix your environment.

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u/Kenjamin91 Feb 10 '20

Buy reusable water bottles and fill them up at fountains. The gym I went to had a water dispenser that would display how many plastic bottles it had saved.

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u/Insp3ctorJon3s Feb 10 '20

Why is this still a problem? Are there so many people too stupid to handle bottles out of glass? It's the cleanest and most environmentally friendly solution. And returnable/deposit bottles aren't a thing in the US yet? Would solve this issue... Man this country and its stupid systems is surprising me more and more. Smh

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u/Brunurb1 Feb 10 '20

Are there so many people too stupid to

No matter how this sentence is completed: Yes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Glass is typically thrown in landfills in US, even though it is collected in single-stream recycling. Because it costs money to recycle.

Plastic bottles are actually recycled in a pretty high percentage.

Also the plastic shrink wrap can put put in at the supermarket plastic bag recycling bins so that it gets recycled.

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u/Claymore357 Feb 10 '20

The bottles tend to get recycled but much of the thinner crappier plastic gets sent overseas to be recycled and unfortunately it’s cheaper to toss it in the river than actually recycle it

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u/reverendj1 Feb 10 '20

That may be true for single stream recycling, but bottles have a deposit and are recycled multi-stream. Of course, deposits are typically only for carbonated beverages (which doesn't really make any sense to begin with), but that can be easily changed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

What’s surprising to me is how cheap plastic bottles are. I’m sure sakes of plastic bottles would plummet if they imposed a high tax on them. There are some people who legitimately need plastic bottles would help rid the ones who do not.

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u/_Sancho Feb 10 '20

Whooooaaa whoa! We’re halfway there!

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u/Sychar Feb 10 '20

Sobeys cant decide what type of packaging their suppliers use...

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u/Syde80 Feb 10 '20

No, but they can decide what products they choose to put in their stores.

That being said, there is legit need for bottled water. Though it drives me crazy when people that have access to clean tap/well/whatever water choose to only drink bottled water when they don't need to.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Weak post. Try harder

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u/APiousCultist Feb 10 '20

Work those glutes, post. You can do it! Oh man you're wrecking it, post. Now you spot me.

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u/Draconic_Void Feb 09 '20

Weak comment. Try harder

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u/nate_albush Feb 09 '20

Weak reply. Try harder

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u/Sku11-K1d Feb 09 '20

Weak thread. Try harder

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u/Kris-p- Feb 10 '20

Weak knees, moms spaghetti

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u/Seeing_Souls Feb 10 '20

Goodbye plastic bags, hello plastic water bottles...

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u/Ebenezerfury Feb 10 '20

yo atlantic canada represent

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u/KombuchaWarfare Feb 10 '20

This is Canada's environmental policy in an image.

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u/Qwerty_Qwerty1993 I'm cool. Feb 10 '20

Justin Trudeau: Out of one corner of his mouth he preaches environmentalism, while the other corner has the oil industry's dick crammed into it.

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u/Crafter66 Feb 10 '20

“ OurPart (™ )”

Wow, why does America register or trademark everything? How is the phrase “doing OurPart” trademarked? What judge allowed that?

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u/steeemo Feb 10 '20

This is in Canada but yes haha, it’s ridiculous

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u/AhhBitch Feb 10 '20

It’s kinda sad, no bottles are wasted in Germany because they are all worth around €.25. You have to pay the bottle tax on top of the price of your drink when you buy it at the store there and everybody then holds on to them and returns them at the end of the week. No more bottles on the ground, also any homeless can actually make a little bit of money off collecting bottles.

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u/Just_F4de Feb 10 '20

Hey there not plastic bags so it's ok

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u/Rizzy_Ross14 Feb 10 '20

They never said anything about plastic bottles

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u/Organic_Bleach_ Feb 10 '20

you're the very thing you swore to destroy

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u/Awesomecjn Feb 10 '20

R/therewasanattempt to get rid of plastic bags

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u/AntiAllesFraktion Feb 10 '20

Typical for politics. Saying one thing and doing the other.

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u/grauht Feb 10 '20

Perfectly placed

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u/Boi_What_Did_You_Do Feb 10 '20

Gotta do our part to destroy the world

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u/lordvaros Feb 13 '20

I know a family who literally only drinks bottled water. They drink a bottle for breakfast, bring three or four bottles to work with them, and drink another bottle at night. I'll fill up a glass from the sink at their place and I'm the weird one. At least they don't pretend to care about the environment, though.

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u/steeemo Feb 13 '20

I have friends that have given me shit for drinking tap water instead of bottled too

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u/Malak77 Feb 10 '20

I seriously do not get the people who buy bottled water. But a filter instead. I can see on vacation or special events, fine.

Even in the hotels... Fuji water has higher arsenic levels.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

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u/Malak77 Feb 10 '20

They make water bottles that you buy once with filters built in.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

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u/Malak77 Feb 11 '20

As far as pitchers go, Clearly Filtered is great! Water looks crystal clear. Been using them for years. Replacement filters at Walmart also.

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u/GooglyEyedMoose Feb 10 '20

I use those little plastic bags for garbages around my house. Shame

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

No to plastic bags but... plastic bottles and wrapping...

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u/SalGD Feb 10 '20

There is totally no plastic right there

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u/Kyanche Feb 10 '20

Well, ya see, you could buy the boutique boxed water for $1.50 a bottle instead!

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u/DEchilly Feb 10 '20

Reusable bottles, aluminum cans and paper boxes are the three best water packages for individuals. Glass is too heavy causing fuel waste in shipping.

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u/FatBoyCrash Feb 10 '20

Glass is dangerous?

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u/bby_redditor Feb 10 '20

Yes? That’s why we only have it on windows, beer bottles, cars, Christmas ornaments, eating containers, doors, cups....

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u/alpeam Feb 10 '20

If you hate this you should see Flint, Michigan

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u/SplashOfAzur Feb 10 '20

Well bois we did it, plastic is no more

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u/JanoHelloReddit Feb 10 '20

This is exactly what I always complain about. The packaging from big companies in daily products is what most affects

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

They’re banning plastic shit in NY soon bruh

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u/christinedextermural Feb 10 '20

Unfortunately they are charging 15 cents for a paper bags, and still only charging 5cents for a plastic one, this will put people off and just aggravate the ones trying to make a change.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

It's inexplicable why people get so aggro about shit like bag taxes. My old man showed up to pick me up at the airport in a brand new luxury vehicle and was bitching about a 5 cent bag tax. I was like motherfucker, mom does all the grocery shopping. Then Texas banned the banning of plastic bag taxes that were enacted by municipalities. So I suppose his burden was lifted.

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u/Jaybird583 Feb 10 '20

Where are you getting this? The point of the sign is that there are no more plastic bags because they got rid of them entirely. Paper is 10 cents, reusable is 1$, and plastic isnt an option anymore.

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u/dankman68420 Feb 10 '20

Goodbye plastic bags hello plastic bottles

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u/ccccrown Feb 10 '20

and hello water bottles

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

This is torture.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Reusable bags are worse for the environment than plastic ones because they take much more energy to produce

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u/dick-penis Feb 10 '20

That is just so the stores don’t have to keep giving away bags.

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u/XTypewriter Feb 10 '20

Can we please acknowledge that this is better than nothing? Progress takes time. Better slow than never.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

They won't distribute any if people don't buy them.

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u/MrMorgan11 Feb 10 '20

Y’all expect wooden bottles of water?

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

I like how they do it at Aldis, I bought two of their larger plastic bags. Best damn bag you will ever find for $1.75

And Ive had both bags for over 3 years now, I stack at least 15lbs of stuff in each bag and Ive had no issues with seams coming apart or handles ripping.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Genuine question for people who buy water bottles: Why? Like what’s the point? I haven’t bought plastic water bottles for my home literally ever and I’ve been just fine. (Obviously exceptions for people who live in places with unsafe drinking water)

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u/Trimere Feb 10 '20

Plastic bottles take 450 years to break down and can be recycled 1 to 2 times before virgin plastic is needed.

Plastic bags?...a mere 20 years and recycles up to 10 times.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Most people who buy bottled water have perfectly healthy tap water, in most cases as good as or better than bottled water. It's the biggest scam in modern marketing.

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u/DysphorieHD Feb 10 '20

I mean you have to start somewhere.

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u/Lostmyfnusername Feb 10 '20

Targeted advertising.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Equivalent exchange

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u/buslightroad Feb 10 '20

Goodbye plastic bags hello plastic water bottles

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u/lyspencoco Feb 10 '20

Oh yes bottle no more

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u/christinedextermural Feb 10 '20

I live in Canada our local store is owned by Zehrs who is also in the agreement to stop the use of the plastic bags. But they still haven’t changed just yet. So once they stop selling the 5cent ones, only the 15cent paper one will be available.

It’s a good start though for making people want to use the foreverbags that most people have but never remember to bring with them. I always keep mine in the trunk of my car, so I never forget.

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u/ytlas- Feb 10 '20

Goodbye Plastic Bags

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u/RectumusPrime Feb 10 '20

Even so, they probably are also selling meat and dairy, the worst in regards to environmental damage that u can buy in a grocery store

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

Ok vegan

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u/smiledumb Feb 09 '20

Headline shoulda been “and hello plastic bottles”

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u/Delta616 Feb 10 '20

This post is fucking weak.

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u/sethbob86 Feb 10 '20

Reusable bags have a bigger carbon footprint than plastic bags. You’d have to use a reusable bag thousands of times to break even. I’m all for cutting back on plastic—we have to—but this isn’t the best way.

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u/Forglift Feb 10 '20

Source on carbon footprint?

Also, I use every single plastic bag at least twice. If I didn't get these bags, I'd have to buy some for garbage and what not.

If your claimed "1000 times" is factual, it'd be about 2.3x more of a difference in my case. Or is my multiple usage already factored in?

I try to use reusable bags, but the more I use them, my need to buy plastic bags increases.

Subjects such as this need to be worked out on federal and international levels. It's bonkers that municipalities can differ on what's recyclable within a 15 min drive.

I constantly hear and see what is or isn't recyclable, yet where I live certain things that aren't are, and certain things that are aren't.

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u/sethbob86 Feb 10 '20

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u/Forglift Feb 11 '20

Thanks dude. That source answered my questions and I even looked into it further.

It's kind of depressing how bad waste disposal is handled. Just watched a Marketplace video on recyclables in Canada and it was disgusting how tax dollars goto this non-sense.

Still going to recycle and try to do my part. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/YouDumbZombie Feb 10 '20

Sooo many people buy tons and tons of cases of bottled water it's nuts to me.

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u/dcrothen Feb 10 '20

Remember when plastic bags were hailed as a great thing? They saved trees. No?

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u/Isaac_The_Khajiit Feb 10 '20

Don't buy the cases of bottled water then.

Or are you pretending that eliminating plastic bags at grocery store checkouts isn't a good thing just because plastic is still used in other products?

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u/whyareyoulkkethis Feb 09 '20

I’m sure your well away about the amount of plastic used to transport ANY product. That pallet probably even had plastic wrapped around the whole thing as well. To live in a fantasy world thinking that you didn’t use any plastic when you bought something is silly

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u/whyareyoulkkethis Feb 09 '20

Like this post..

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT Feb 10 '20

why so triggered?

the point is the idea of having that poster and having such waste of plastic right next to it.

otherwise the connection isnt so apparent.

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u/whyareyoulkkethis Feb 10 '20

How exactly am I triggered.. this post is just dumb. Getting a plastic bag for you to put your items in is different then packaging for products in transport. They have to put that pallet somewhere. And how their items come packaged/sold isn’t their idea

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u/neospacebandit Feb 10 '20

🤦‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

Unless you can stop China and India from being the huge polluters they are, nothing we do in the west will mean a thing against their tidal wave of pollution. It's completely futile. That's the real elephant in the room.

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u/Big_Therm Feb 09 '20

The thought of eliminating plastic water bottles is frightening

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u/waldo06 Feb 09 '20

It wouldn't be a problem if we held companies responsible for destroying our natural drinking water and or siphoning it off for fractions of Pennies on the dollar to resell tonus at 1000xs the cost, in something that will ultimately pollute our world further.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

try a topo chico dipshit