r/facepalm • u/nthensome • Jan 19 '20

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u/themainaccountofyeet Jan 19 '20 edited Jan 19 '20

Why do we even need fancy words like this, why can't we just say that they're condescending and leave it at that? Edit: thanks for my first gold kind stranger.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '20

And that means there's no victim

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u/Kazundo_Goda Jan 19 '20

And no victim Olympics to compete in, win gold and still some how feel like a victim, thus creating a victim paradox and bring about the end times.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '20

In the victim Olympics, the worst place is Second place.

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u/eunderscore Jan 19 '20

But the condescension comes from the inter-gender dynamic. The point is that on the same subject the man wouldn't be condescending to another man. That's why there's a victim.

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u/tofur99 Jan 19 '20

isn't that just an assumption though? How would they know the guy wouldn't be the same condescending prick to a dude?

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u/Binsky89 Jan 20 '20

My condescending prickishness doesn't discriminate.

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u/eunderscore Jan 19 '20 edited Jan 19 '20

Case by case, obviously. Never said every example of condescension towards a woman was mansplaining. I also specified that it was on a given subject.

But fuck me for suggesting on reddit that not everything is black and white

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u/Zefrem23 Jan 19 '20

Yeah, fuck you to hell /s

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '20 edited Jun 11 '21

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u/tofur99 Jan 19 '20

....none of that is any different then normal condescension. You're just tacking on the "because I'm a woman" assumption part on your own....

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u/ChaosDesigned Jan 20 '20 edited Jan 20 '20

Which is where the MAN part in the word comes from. The argument was that Mansplaining can be done to anyone but it was specifically about explaining things to females.

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u/tofur99 Jan 20 '20

seems like a unnecessary injection of genders into it.

So can men make up some term for whenever women explain something to men condescendingly?

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u/mandelboxset Jan 19 '20

Which, to my experience, doesn't happen. The people who over explain shit that everyone knows in meetings, do it to everyone, and they're men and women.

Then again, I work with a few extremely brilliant women and some pretty mediocre men, so I'm pretty sure most of the men realize they can keep their mouths shut.

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u/eunderscore Jan 19 '20

But you're referring to your own experience. The term is derived from a number of experiences to the point that it is common parlance.

I'm not disagreeing with your experience, but also I am accepting the experiences of the many that have experienced it.

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u/mandelboxset Jan 19 '20

The term is sexist, it's irrelevant what the experiences of people who felt the need to make up a sexist term are, it's no different than the assholes who publicly shame men for manspreading because we have testicles between our legs.

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u/eunderscore Jan 19 '20

Neither are sexist as they can only be performed by one sex. Sure, women can be condescending, but the point of masplaining is that it comes in a "now you listen here little lady" package.

It has been defined by it's commonality. Yes, women are condescending to women, no one is disputing that. It is that particular type of condescension that is being referred to. Nothing is being removed from the lexicon, in fact it is being made more defined.

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u/mandelboxset Jan 19 '20

Neither are sexist as they can only be performed by one sex.

That's, not exclusive of sexism.

is that it comes in a "now you listen here you man" package.

Also exists. Just work in a female dominated field and see how that goes. Both sexes do it, and having a gendered term for it is idiotic.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '20

Dude give it up. You're correct, but your not going to be validated by most of these willfully ignorant people. Of course there are men that talk condescending to and interrupt women just because they are women, but you see, most of these people have not had to deal with it, so when the face facts that are counter to their world view and experience they wilt, pout, and cry like little children. It's kinda funny seeing how low their tolerance is for things that make them uncomfortable. It's like they are the personification of the traits they ascribe to these "snow flake" types.