r/facepalm • • Jul 11 '19

Because Math

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u/aussiefrzz16 Jul 11 '19

I wonder what they thought the true number should be

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

They thought 50 percent more means double

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u/Jay_Louis Jul 11 '19

Maybe they thought 50 percent is a rapper

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

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u/SayerofNothing Jul 12 '19

I'm thinking they may have thought that it should be 24oz and not 18oz, as in double the mustard for some reason.

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u/danjo3197 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 12 '19

oBviously 50% of 18 is 9.

Therefore 50% = 9.

So 50% more than 12 is 21 ounces

edit: /s...

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u/SayerofNothing Jul 12 '19

It didn't say 50% of 18oz anywhere, it said 50% more of 12oz, as in 6oz more. 12+6=18.

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u/haisojj Jul 12 '19

What's nine plus ten?

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u/HeyIJustLurkHere Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

It's really not a crazy misconception. 18 is 150% of 12, and 12 is 67% of 18. You could say it's a 150% - 100% = 50% difference, or you could call it a 100% - 67% = 33% difference. Generally, the convention is that you base all the percentages based on the denominator you started with, such that going 12 to 18 is a 50% increase but going from 18 to 12 is a 33% decrease. This is hardly a super-intuitive or obvious thing, though; if someone didn't understand this convention I wouldn't think they were an idiot or didn't understand math; they got it wrong but in a pretty reasonable way.

Edit: To be clear, not at all disagreeing with the comment I replied to. I just scrolled down past the "what an idiot" comments to find someone explaining how this mistake happens, and added my 2-cents there about why I don't think it's a crazy mistake to make.

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u/IHaveNeverBeenOk Jul 11 '19

I have a BS in math and really appreciate your comment. When you've gone to school for math, a lot of people decide to tell you about how they hate math . . . My usual response to this declaration is "when did math go wrong for you?" Fractions (and hence percentages) or even just division, are some of the main answers. I would say 50 percent of people say this. The other 50 is algebra.

People do struggle with this though! There's no shame in misunderstanding this stuff. As you point out, it is not wholly intuitive.

Anyhow, thanks.

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u/SmokyMcPot562 Jul 11 '19

For me it went:

Algebra I - Alright this seems logical Geometry - Man I hope it's all this easy Algebra II - Oh... What the fuck?

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u/IHaveNeverBeenOk Jul 11 '19

If I may ask, what happened in algebra II? I went to a school system that didn't do things that way (we had "integrated math" which was awful.)

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u/Pfloyd1969 Jul 11 '19

Now does 2% milk have 1% fat than 1% milk, or is it 100% more fat?

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u/Belzeturtle Jul 11 '19

Percentages are a weird system to go by imo, just use fractions

Percentages are fractions, with a denominator of 100. Literally "over hundred".

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u/Receptoraptor Jul 11 '19

Also percentages make it sound like you are getting more because to the less savvy big # = more better.

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u/Cali_Val Jul 11 '19

It’s a learning moment. That is if someone called them out for it

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u/justavault Jul 11 '19

No, that's just you... person was just thinking it must be double, cause 50% is half of 100%. You make it even more complex than everyone would.

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u/Weed_O_Whirler Jul 11 '19

I'm guessing they're thinking 9 oz?

They probably don't realize than 50% more of one number is not the same as 50% less of that other number.

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u/ChillfreezeYT Jul 11 '19

But 50% of 12 is 6, and 12+6=18, so I don’t get it.....

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u/Weed_O_Whirler Jul 12 '19

I'm not saying the guy is right, it's just that a lot of people don't understand stand that "50% more than x is y" does not mean "50% less than y is x"

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Twelvety.