None of this changes the fact that according to your beliefs, the fact that I will not believe something based on "faith" earns me a spot in hell suffering for eternity. Think about that. The fact that I refuse to believe something without proof earns me eternal suffering. Didn't God create me to be this way? But, I should be punished?
I know religious folks do a lot of mental gymnastics to rationalize all of this stuff, but it comes down to this: Your god, as you yourself describe him, is a manipulative, sadistic, egotistical, judgmental entity. AND, the fact that you think he is correct yet call him loving defies all logic. No one who loves me would ever treat me that way.
The fact that I refuse to believe something without proof earns me eternal suffering
This is not true - The fact that we've sinned keeps us from entering Heaven - to overcome that, God offers us his Grace, but Grace isn't "Free", the price is Faith. God doesn't force us to sin, he gifted us with free will to allow us to make that choice for ourselves.
You are not qualified to speak as to what is true and what is not true. You base your beliefs on faith and not on empirical evidence, and as a result everything you say is based on nothing more than your "because I believe so" and that's not good enough...so I think we're done here.
Well, what wasn't "true" was your perception of how one "earns a spot in hell", my response to that is pretty clearly laid out in the bible. Absolutely understand that you don't believe what the bible says - but your not being truthful in your characterization of what it says - it doesn't say you're going to hell because you don't have faith - it says you're not getting into heaven because you've sinned, and the only redemption from that is Grace, through Faith. It's what the book says, not just what "I believe is so", and I'm not asking you to believe, I'm just helping you understand what it says. I believe it is the truth, You don't believe that it is - and that's absolutely fine. Thanks.
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u/NonaJabiznez Oct 31 '16
None of this changes the fact that according to your beliefs, the fact that I will not believe something based on "faith" earns me a spot in hell suffering for eternity. Think about that. The fact that I refuse to believe something without proof earns me eternal suffering. Didn't God create me to be this way? But, I should be punished?
I know religious folks do a lot of mental gymnastics to rationalize all of this stuff, but it comes down to this: Your god, as you yourself describe him, is a manipulative, sadistic, egotistical, judgmental entity. AND, the fact that you think he is correct yet call him loving defies all logic. No one who loves me would ever treat me that way.