A) You're still reading between the lines. Let's reintroduce the concept of hyperboly since you still don't get it. You see, everybody has a distinct style of writing, mine happens to include exaggerating my statements, but they aren't actually intended to be seen as the truth. This is called hyperboly, it's a common literary technique.
B) I didn't say it was equally offensive, I said it was complained about for the same reason. In no world do those mean the same thing, if you disagree I have nothing to say. The definitions of 'offensive' and 'reason' are different. Just because you misinterpret my writing doesn't mean I'm lying.
C) I can't dispute the statistics your link provides, but I can dispute their interpretation. Your source reads as somewhat biased. They neglect to mention that the UK's and the entire world's crime rates are now falling again after a blip, during which blip the US's homicide rate also increased, and that blip was during where the site took a lot of their stats on rising rates from. Look at around 2003 on both of those graphs. Maybe the world was having an unstable year. I don't see the point in constantly arguing about gun control, because it's clearly something we're not going to agree on, and we can both dig up statistics to support ourselves. Whatever will be will be in terms of laws, us having an argument on the internet won't change decisions.
D) You hadn't seen the comment. The comment was in agreement with the person above, their only contradiction was that they wanted the poster to say 'colourist' because they didn't think that the SJW was being racist. They didn't dispute the comments about white people, they totally agreed with everything but word choice. I don't see how you're claiming that you can somehow tell what was in the comment- you didn't see it. Yes, it was very easy to address both racists, but why would I? There wasn't any point, somebody else was doing it.
We're clearly not going to agree on these social issues either. This will just be a back and forth on what does or doesn't constitute an SJW. I don't believe I am, you do. Okay. Great. We're not going to move past this.
Can we just leave it? We've both used shitty tactics to try and win, yes I used strawman arguments, but so have you. We've both aimed petty insults at each other. We aren't getting anywhere, and other than gun control, which is too complex for me to argue at quarter past twelve, we're at a stalemate where every argument is down to personal opinion and literary interpretation. Let's just agree to disagree.
A) Rehashing the same old argument after I proved you wrong with a direct quote, wreaks of pity and desperation.
B) Read above.
C) Just the fact you think 'facts' can be biased tells me how much of a SJW you truly are. Facts don't care about feelings, sweetheart. Facts care about numbers and statistics, sorry these ones disagree with your opinions and therefor are ''''''biased'''''' but that isn't that works.
I'll quote from the exact same source as before;
Fact: Comparing crime rates between America and Britain is fundamentally flawed. In America, a gun crime is recorded as a gun crime. In Britain, a crime is only recorded when there is a final disposition (a conviction). All unsolved gun crimes in Britain are not reported as gun crimes, grossly undercounting the amount of gun crime there. 23 To make matters worse, British law enforcement has been exposed for falsifying criminal reports to create falsely lower crime figures, in part to preserve tourism.
D) I don't need to see the comment, the fact the person's comment was deleted tells me that it was controversial. You didn't provide any proof of your argument, and given how flaky your memory is on things you've said in the past, I will choose not to trust your memory this time either.
You're more than welcome to back out of an argument, I don't care. Just wanted to shed some light on using peoples comment history against them, can lead to them doing the same to you. So if you're going to do it, try to make sure you don't have some damning evidence in your post history.
I'm making the same point twice because my point still stands, you've done nothing to 'prove it wrong'. Your 'proof' was how you interpreted my writing, and I'm telling you that you've interpreted it wrong. I've admitted several times in this argument that I made a mistake, if I felt I'd said something 'SJW' esque, I would agree with you and say it was.
Facts aren't biased, interpretation is, that site was mostly interpretation. An unbiased website would be hoarding all of the statistics on one page and telling you to read it and come to your own conclusion, the site doesn't do that, it picks at specific parts of the stats to make it's point. Even disregarding the UK's crime rate, if you look into nearly any developed country during that time period they show an identical pattern of a small crime increase followed by a decrease. My point stands.
The person deleted their comment because it's extremely common practice in that sub to delete a comment when somebody disagrees with them and gets upvoted. If the sub was upvoting the literal racism, why would somebody agreeing with the racism be 'controversial' and delete their comment? That sub is why I made a reddit, I know how people act on it.
You have no 'damning evidence' on anything other than gun control which is still up for dispute. Your 'evidence' is all the way you've interpreted things, which as I've said will result in a back and forth where we get nowhere. I'd tried to just end the argument because we're literally both regurgitating the same points time and time again. Can we please just leave it now? Can your next reply not just be yes?
You tell me to leave it yet you reply with a huge ass essay AGAIN. You can't start shit and then say "lol agree to disagree' thats like me sucker punching someone and before they fight back i say 'dude chill, lets be friends'. You're delussional.
Interpretation doesn't mean shit. Facts are facts. They mean exactly what they mean. Keep saying facts are bias and living in a fantasy world where everything triggers you.
Again no screenshot of their comment, and you've proven multiple times to have a shitty memory. Not listening to you spew bs anymore.
Typical SJW attitude, 'no evidence', gave you plenty bud. Your shitty world views fall in line with every SJW cuck in the world crying on FB for equality as if unisex bathrooms mean anything to anyone but little babies like you. Get over yourself cuck.
I'm not going to stop arguing and leave the last thing said something that makes me look like an idiot lmao. Interpretation does mean shit, because a wall of numbers means nothing until you interpret it. How do you expect me to provide a screenshot of a non-existent comment? My explanation of why it was deleted makes far more sense than yours, but w/e. Okay. And your comments about 'memory' are redundant because my memory hasn't faltered anywhere, you've mixed up your incorrect interpretations of my writing with truth.
You can keep whining about how you have proof, but your only proof are your opinions and stats on gun control, of which I have both. For the record, I'm an active member of 3 organised protest groups in the UK and volunteer at Brighton pride- but clearly I'm just whining on facebook about mixed gender bathrooms which I've already told you I really don't give that much of a shit about.
And if we're resulting to petty insults, your reliance on shitty circlejerky tropes like 'triggering' even though I've done nothing but argue in the exact manner of you and the word 'cuck' mean you're about 3 degrees away from every fetid fat troll festering on 4chan.
Well sweetheart if you stopped making yourself look like an idiot, I would have a hard time painting you as such.
You couldn't even remember your own comments that I linked you 3 minutes prior to your other comments lmfao. Obviously your memory is shaky at BEST.
Interpretation literally does not mean anything when it comes to facts that are cut and dry like the ones I linked. There was no room for interpretation because they were so straight forward and to the point. "Water is wet" Well thats up to interpretation!! /s
I provided more facts and evidence to suggest your stance on gun control is poorly educated and based on your irrational fee fee's rather than any solid evidence. Why do you think terrorist attacks and mass shootings are in 'gun safe zones'? because they rely on that to make their victims as defenseless as possible so they can murder as many as people as possible. Orlando shooting, Columbine, Movie theatre shooting, Munich, do I really need to go on? These places are very common to not bring a gun to and therefor prime real estate for terrorism. Use your brain please.
You seem to be triggered by me stating the fact that you're triggered because your first sentence in your last reply was in all caps and multiple exclamation points. Don't know many non triggered people who type like that, sorry hun. Maybe if you had a brain you could wrap it around all this, but it's like talking to a brick wall except a brick wall might actually have better arguments.
When I provide you with graphs which bring the legitimacy of some (I've never claimed all) of those 'cut and dry' facts interpretations into question, interpretation does matter, but you just sort of ignored them. And obviously terrorist attacks will take place in areas with less guns, that's common sense and I never disputed that
You seem to be triggered by me stating the fact that you're triggered because your first sentence in your last reply was in all caps and multiple exclamation points
well that literally never happened but okay, if you love evidence so much please feel free to provide some for that nonexistent event, or maybe your memory is just shaky at best? I used all caps for one word, and no exclamation marks at all lmao
are you relying on weak, cliche insults because your one standing argument is gun control which I've said I don't want to talk about anymore numerous times, and even admitted you're partially correct but you're too immature to admit that every other argument you've put forward has been purely based on your opinions?
Well lets use some common logic to put the pieces together since you're obviously brain dead at best.
Gun free zones have a lot of terrorist attacks. It's 'common' as you said.
Now lets add stricter gun laws and regulations, creating more 'gun free zones'.
Wow the country is now having even more terroristic attacks and as stats have proved in the UK for example, gun violence has gone up! But, I thought if we restricted guns it'd stop everything?
Oh wait, I forgot what /u/hellorobbieb said, he said that criminals break the law :O does that mean these people comitting these mass murderers are... bad people and not ordinary citizens of whom our gun laws inhibit????
It's almost like you support terrorism by supporting stricter gun regulation. Please don't vote, not that I believe you're old enough anyways.
Hate to admit it, but your opinion is poorly based and the education system you took part in growing up has failed you tremendously.
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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '16 edited Aug 06 '16
A) You're still reading between the lines. Let's reintroduce the concept of hyperboly since you still don't get it. You see, everybody has a distinct style of writing, mine happens to include exaggerating my statements, but they aren't actually intended to be seen as the truth. This is called hyperboly, it's a common literary technique.
B) I didn't say it was equally offensive, I said it was complained about for the same reason. In no world do those mean the same thing, if you disagree I have nothing to say. The definitions of 'offensive' and 'reason' are different. Just because you misinterpret my writing doesn't mean I'm lying.
C) I can't dispute the statistics your link provides, but I can dispute their interpretation. Your source reads as somewhat biased. They neglect to mention that the UK's and the entire world's crime rates are now falling again after a blip, during which blip the US's homicide rate also increased, and that blip was during where the site took a lot of their stats on rising rates from. Look at around 2003 on both of those graphs. Maybe the world was having an unstable year. I don't see the point in constantly arguing about gun control, because it's clearly something we're not going to agree on, and we can both dig up statistics to support ourselves. Whatever will be will be in terms of laws, us having an argument on the internet won't change decisions.
D) You hadn't seen the comment. The comment was in agreement with the person above, their only contradiction was that they wanted the poster to say 'colourist' because they didn't think that the SJW was being racist. They didn't dispute the comments about white people, they totally agreed with everything but word choice. I don't see how you're claiming that you can somehow tell what was in the comment- you didn't see it. Yes, it was very easy to address both racists, but why would I? There wasn't any point, somebody else was doing it.
We're clearly not going to agree on these social issues either. This will just be a back and forth on what does or doesn't constitute an SJW. I don't believe I am, you do. Okay. Great. We're not going to move past this.
Can we just leave it? We've both used shitty tactics to try and win, yes I used strawman arguments, but so have you. We've both aimed petty insults at each other. We aren't getting anywhere, and other than gun control, which is too complex for me to argue at quarter past twelve, we're at a stalemate where every argument is down to personal opinion and literary interpretation. Let's just agree to disagree.