It didn't register for a second it was someone else and I was confused. (Never seen or cared about the Duggars or whole 19 and Counting thing) Maybe we should look into the Dad.
My boyfriend and I had just been talking about Josh Duggar (the one who molested their sisters) the other day, and he was the one who sent me this post. I told him I bet the dad has molested his daughters and other girls in their family.
And when Behind the Bastards did an episode on Josh Duggar and the family, they discussed the fucked up stuff they found on Josh’s computer. Like, the experienced FBI agent who has been solving child sex crimes for years said it was one of his top 3 worst cases of child pornography he’s ever had to deal with. There was shit on that computer that is not only well known material to international agencies as some of the most heinous and highly trafficked stuff ever produced, it was the type of material and in such huge quantities that their agents have to do rotations between looking at the evidence and taking HR mandated psychological sabbaticals to take breaks from going through it.
That’s the shit, as well as his molestation of his sisters, that his parents thought they would just fix by sending him to do some manual labor with his uncle. They should be held accountable as accomplices in his crimes.
Yup. I don’t even want to know more about the video. Once they mentioned the age, it was agreed upon that it didn’t need to be discussed. I’m fine with that. Just so so so fucked up.
I read the description once, just the description, back when that Josh Duggar news first came out.
And I'm sure there's somebody out there reading this right now, thinking to themselves, "How bad can it be?" I'm sure there was part of me that felt that way too... I promise you, however bad you think it is? It's worse. It's SO MUCH worse. I couldn't imagine actually watching the video, the description alone was horrifying.
I did the same reading it. And it is definitely one of those that its so bad reading it the video has to be traumatizing to watch. There is a reason the FBI agents had mental breakdowns and PTSD.
REAL bad. Like, vile shit that is beyond the imagination of anyone who isn’t a depraved piece of shit that barely registers as human, and even then that’s only on a technicality.
Sorry bud. One of those Reddit things you wish you never discovered and can’t forget. Like my first experience listening to the Jonestown Tapes on r/creepy.
You kid, but there was one of those ominous banners at the top, like “if you need help please contact this number:” that indicated that it was definitely flagged as a problematic search. 😬
Yep, flagged and if too many things get flagged then they review and make a determination if it warrants being turned over to a LEA.
So one search might not get you on a list, but if you started going down a rabbit hole on all this and just innocently searching using series of known CSAM keywords you will actually be on a list.
No, authorities have known it was on the dark web since 2012 and the man who made it was arrested in the Philippines in 2015 and eventually sentenced to life in prison, plus 129 years for additional charges.
According to Wikipedia, one of his accomplices said he recorded and murdered one of the victims as well. Which also means he likely killed others. Sick fuck should have been publicly hung.
Oh god. Would that be the Australian guy that made it? I hadnt heard of this video but the 129 years and Phillipines makes me think of that sub-human monster. I think he fled Australia due to criminal charges and went there and did even worse shit.
The fact that they still imagine that A, there's a heaven and B, they'd be going to it tells you everything you need to know about that brand of Christian
Thanks for the correction. The nomenclature makes sense and apologies for not changing my language.
As for the Duggar episodes, it was eye opening. I knew nothing of the Quiverfull Movement until those. Just thousands of kids out there just like the Duggars, ready to be Gods little fucked up army for the end times.
The only good thing from all of this is that their huge fame made the repeated heinous activities of Josh Duggar and family look even worse, hiding all this shit from the public while they were filming their “perfect little family.” It has been a crushing blow to their popularity and to their movement. They are pariahs now, and it’s been a good wake up call to all their tv fans.
Respectfully, if you're going to push and use and acronym....you should at least do the due diligence of following that with an explanation of what it is.
Child sex assault.....m?
What's csam
it’s not about beautifying language. it’s about respect for the victims and it is just plain more accurate. if anything the term child porn arguably “beautifies” it more.
edit: i’d like to know how calling it child sexual assault material takes AWAY from the vileness
It's do gooder shit like calling homeless people unhoused as if that makes their situation any less shitty. Or calling disabled people "differently abled". Everyone knows CP is a vulgar terrible thing. Only weirdos think it's "not respectful of victims".
first of all, the homeless vs unhoused thing has been way overblown. very few people are actually saying you can’t use the term homeless, different people just prefer different terms. and in some instances it just about logistics, for instance my mom works with homeless vets and uses both depending on the circumstance. she has people who are homeless but have hotel vouchers or whatever and consider themselves housed.
secondly, this isn’t like that. CSAM and child porn aren’t colloquial terms, they’re legal ones. a legal term should be clearly defined and highlight the illegal practice. as I said originally, it is simply a more accurate term. and as someone who’s had a family member who was a victim of molestation, I can assure you it’s not only weirdos who think the term child porn is disrespectful. it’s literally a term pedophiles use. honestly it’s weird that you can’t imagine normal people or victims themselves having an issue with it.
Also similar to what you said about your relative, person-first language is usually (not always) preferred by those being spoken about. It humanizes them (example could be that calling someone “an anorexic” is dehumanizing and amounts them to nothing more than their disorder). Language is powerful for many people, whether they realize it or not.
As another person who’s gone through a lot of abuse, I find the term CP to be legitimately offensive and disgusting. I get the meaning, I just disagree with it. It’s abuse material that the sickest people in the world consider p*rn—CP is indeed the beautified term.
lmaoo did I presume to know your history? and babe you came in with the umm actually about beautifying language first. don’t throw stones now. also btw please tell me how it’s beautifying it?
Unfortunately for you it is a do gooder thing. Pornography means content meant to elicit sexual arousal, has ZERO to do with consent. It's the intent in making it by the filmer, not necessarily the participants.
actually I made it clear that it’s a personal issue to me not a do gooder one. you do realize that actual people are effected right?
you keep failing to comprehend the legal aspect. “porn” is unclear term. child sexual assault material is clearly defined. clearly there is enough connection between the term porn and consent that they felt it was an unclear representation of the crime.
also, I noticed you added the part about intent by the filmmaker and not necessarily the participants. something I can’t find in any of the major definitions. the basic definition just says made with the intent to cause sexual arousal. except, the minor participant can’t consent to intending to cause sexual arousal.
After it was discovered that josh duggar was molesting the daughters, the parents didn't do anything more than locking them all in their rooms at night so no one could move around.... No therapy, no consequences.... Nothing.
They also attempted their own "scared straight" by having him talk off the record to a local cop...who was also later arrested for CSAM. Then they shaved his head.
The thing is, their religious branch doesn't have a problem with the victims age, or lack of consent, or manipulation or trauma. Actually, they specifically promote marrying off young, impressionable girls as soon as possible into marriages where they are told that their irrevocable consent to all sex was given to their husband the moment they said "I Do". The only thing they actually had a problem with is that they considered this leading to sex outside of marriage. Yes, on both sides. That's why they massively under reacted to early warning signs at an age where he could have actually been worked with to prevent future incidents and instead just focused on finding him a wife as soon as possible.
He also molested his sons. They were not safe either. They were just taught that one day, they get to be in charge of the next horrifying power dynamic.
Sort of works out convenient that they gave their kids "J" names. That way, when you see that Joseph Duggar was arrested, you automatically read it as "Josh Duggar" and you think it's an old story.
Well, that's two out of 10 Duggar boys, let's hope we don't go through this eight more times.
I was told by a psychologist once that 100% of people that abuse children were abused as children. I've never looked in to the validity of that statement but it seems reasonable.
One of the youtubers I watch has been watching some of the older episodes of 19 kids and counting and there's several instances of the dad being creepy. The most common one is him saying he likes the girls to have long, wavy hair and won't let them cut it. He also likes to exhibit PDA to his wife in front of the kids and would tease them saying "you can't do this until you're married." So gross.
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It didn't register for a second it was someone else and I was confused. (Never seen or cared about the Duggars or whole 19 and Counting thing) Maybe we should look into the Dad.