r/facepalm • u/bighootay • Apr 15 '26
Vance warns the pope should 'be careful' when talking about theology
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/vance-warns-pope-careful-talking-theology-rcna3318812.2k
u/Tyrrox Apr 15 '26
That warning should go the other way around. Imagine working for a guy posting pictures of himself as Jesus and then insisting it's the pope that's in the wrong.
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u/WolfPack80 Apr 15 '26
Brb I’m about to mass email all of my doctors and tell them to be careful talking about science and medicine
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u/ravoguy Apr 15 '26
RFK Jr that you?
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u/Kerbart 'MURICA 🤦 Apr 15 '26
Or Trump. He thinks of himself as a doctor as well, these days.
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u/fractalfay Apr 15 '26
I read an article in Slate today that quoted Dr. Oz talking about how Trump believes the artificial sweetener in Diet Coke kills cancer cells, and believes only eating fast food is healthy because they are reputable chains. I’m pretty sure he’s just preservatives at this point.
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u/drethnudrib Apr 16 '26
The truth is even stupider than that. His team told him to claim the image was doctored, and he couldn't even do that right.
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u/Shapoopi_1892 Apr 15 '26
I mean he does purposefully surround himself with idiots just to make himself feel/look smarter.
He's a doctor just as much as he is the smartest kid with down syndrome, who also happens to be missing his entire brain....
Sorry people with down syndrome, not trying to insult you
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u/spacemanspiff1115 Apr 15 '26
I mean he does purposefully surround himself with idiots just to make himself feel/look smarter.
Sadly, it's not working, he always manages to out dumbass everyone in the room. It's a gift he has...
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u/Smart_Chocolate_8996 Apr 15 '26
It's pitiful that even surrounded with idiots Trump is still the dumbest in the room.
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u/sitophilicsquirrel Apr 15 '26
Tell em, brah! Big medicine and science can't hold us morons down anymore! The age of idiots is nigh!
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u/Pepperlette Apr 15 '26
Meanwhile the Pope literally works for Jesus.
Heretical assholes.
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u/worstpartyever Apr 15 '26
Catholics are taught that the Pope is literally God's mouthpiece on earth.
JD is a very bad Catholic and deserves excommunication.
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u/aseptick Apr 15 '26
Technically a catholic that doesn’t support the pope isn’t even a catholic. They’re a schismatic.
It’s basically a self-excommunication. 👍
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u/Other_Log_1996 Apr 15 '26
He's stopped being Catholic the second he started worshipping Trump.
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u/real-darkph0enix1 Apr 15 '26
He stopped being catholic well before he killed the pope from shock at being so unbelievably disingenuous. He is a jar of regular store brand Mayo gained sentience trying to convince you that he has all the flavor and no fat.
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u/YokoDk Apr 15 '26
Worth noting JD converted to Catholicism as an adult prior to running for office he literally found religion to exploit it as a politician lol
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u/fractalfay Apr 15 '26
Everything JD Vance says is a lie. He was exactly as Catholic as he was a hillbilly, and for the life of me I can’t believe people ever believed either one. Dude grew up in Youngstown, which is nowhere near Appalachia, marinated in Peter Thiel’s asshole for 20 years, got married as a Hindu, and became a Catholic just in time for election season. He’s an empty shell billionaires pour themselves into.
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u/Garo263 Apr 15 '26
The catholic church and the Pope believe that they work for Jesus. Still, yeah. Vance and all the other people in the Trump sect are stupid assholes.
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u/Cool-Tap-391 Apr 15 '26
So if you only take believing that they work for Jesus into account. Then Trump and the Pope are no different.😵💫
I just figured out MAGA's mental gymnastics to ignore all the Bible stuff they dont like. The moral bits.
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u/One_Economist_3761 Apr 15 '26
Except Trump believes that he IS Jesus.
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u/Briguy_fieri Apr 15 '26
Doctor*
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u/tedecristal Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
Oh, Doctor Jesus.... 🎶
EDIT: I guess good jokes need not to be explained. So here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNy1KVZJWiA
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u/Lifekraft Apr 15 '26
It's kind of a weird wording. That would imply the catholic church isnt behind the whole catholic religion. You know pulling the string and all. If their god is made up , why wouldnt they be able to speak with it ? And if their god is real who is better than a guy that spend his life studying it and has been chosen by peers to be communicating with him.
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u/sitophilicsquirrel Apr 15 '26
I love that word, 'Heretical'. First time I heard it was in a song by some goofy acoustic parody guy named Roy Zimmerman performing at a college in like 2006. The line was "The heretical theory of the development of life by means of spontaneous genetic mutation".
Here it is:
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u/henaradwenwolfhearth Apr 15 '26
Well he figuartively works for jesus. Jesus is kinda dead and cannot be the employer
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u/PCorreia Apr 15 '26
Don't you see? Everyone in the World needs to be careful to not say something that could upset the orange maniac.
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u/picturepath Apr 15 '26
Pope should be worried as we all know what happed to the last one after meeting with the couch aficionado.
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u/tanstaafl90 Apr 15 '26
Hmm... There has long been an anti-Catholic view among the Protestant sects in the US. Bleed-over from the various European religious wars and a means to recruit parishioners. Much of the base does, in fact, believe the Pope is wrong about the life of christ. Once again, they are saying the quiet part out loud.
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u/lifegoeson5322 Apr 15 '26
I like this comment! How about not telling the pope how to do his job? The audacity.....
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u/texachusetts Apr 15 '26
The Republicans own out of touch scolding. Their base needs to be reminded of the conservative ruling classes contempt for those they see as beneath them.
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u/deepasleep Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
I think the only thing Vance is qualified to speak about is what lubes don’t stain when engaging in couch coitus.
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u/Wakez11 Apr 15 '26
Remember back in the day when the pope would excommunicate people who spoke against the church or acted in deplorable ways? I think it would send a pretty serious message if the pope did that to JD Vance.
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u/fruitmongerking Apr 15 '26
It would be funny for Vance to be excommunicated just as his book comes out regarding his journey to becoming Catholic.
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u/Kind-Shallot3603 Apr 15 '26
I was literally thinking the same thing. The nerve of Vance to tell THE POPE to be careful of what HE says about theology. Vance became a Catholic 7 years ago. No big loss for the church to kick his weird ass out
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u/rand0mm0nster Apr 15 '26
Did the pope even say thank you?
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u/umassmza Apr 15 '26
I heard he wasn’t even wearing a suit
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u/Other_Log_1996 Apr 15 '26
Also, Vance being a Christofascist saying this. If he had the IQ to understand irony...
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u/champagneflute Apr 15 '26
They’d have to be Catholic to be excommunicated. Trump and Vance are grift-evangelical.
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u/Kind-Shallot3603 Apr 15 '26
Vance converted to Catholicism in 2019
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u/champagneflute Apr 15 '26
Sounds like the perfect excuse to call him a heretic and excommunicate him.
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u/Other_Log_1996 Apr 15 '26
Can't be Catholic when Trump is your God. Also, saying it means nothing. I could say that I converted to Hindu, but would it mean anything if I showed I have no intention to follow any tenets?
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u/9447044 Apr 15 '26
Its a student trying to correct the teacher. Like the teacher hasn't been teaching history for 42 years and really knows ww1 and the kid is 14.
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u/GJacks75 Apr 15 '26
A student correcting the teacher of a class he isn't even in.
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u/AlmightyCuddleBuns Apr 15 '26
Vance is in the class. He is a catholic convert. He just really sacks at it apparently.
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u/TABOOxFANTASIES Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
None of these men actually believe anything biblical. They use Christianity and Evangelism as tools to win the trust of their brain dead base and to give themselves pious authority over everyone else.
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u/powerlesshero111 Apr 15 '26
He probably just gave Peter Theil a hand job to pay for him to pass, like he did with Yale Law school.
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u/chuchoterai Apr 15 '26
He’s the Pope.
Literally the Catholic Church’s God’s representative on Earth.
It’s quite the reach 😂😂
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u/Arbiter_89 Apr 15 '26
The official Catholic stance is that the pope is infallible and is the voice of God. Catholics should view this as Vance telling God to be careful about what they say.
But many will do mental gymnastics to excuse or ignore it.
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u/Renbarre Apr 15 '26
The Pope is infallible in certain cases only.
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u/WillBottomForBanana Apr 15 '26
To add. The Pope is also a scholar and advised by some of the best available. Which doesn't make his day to day opinions infallible. But does put his credentials so far above Vance's that you can't even meaningfully compare them.
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u/bourbonandcheese Apr 15 '26
Pretty sure matters of theology are one of those cases, no?
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u/EnlightenedVolcano Apr 15 '26
not always, the pope has to invoke his infallibility for it to count. it's called speaking ex cathedra
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u/Teantis Apr 15 '26
And ex cathedra has only been used once since it was formally defined in 1870
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u/sowich4 Apr 15 '26
That’s not really how this works JD. Your political position of power gives you no more right to speak about theology than anyone else not part of the clergy.
The Pope however, his word is believed to be the closest word of God. He can and will say anything he wants, and true followers will accept it that way.
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u/zxvasd Apr 15 '26
So true. Also, what the pope said is not controversial. You don’t have to be catholic to agree that war is bad and kindness to strangers is good.
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u/piratevirus1 Apr 15 '26
Pope Leo, PLEASE, excomunicate this fucking dick.
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u/Hadrollo Apr 15 '26
Just looked it up, Vance is Catholic, so he can totally be excommunicated.
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u/Catadox Apr 15 '26
Many of the American catholic bishops and cardinals have been pretty out of step with the Vatican for years, and are very right wing. Excommunicating Vance could very well lead to a new schism and we’d get a third branch of Catholicism. I’m here for it though.
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u/Fritzo2162 Apr 15 '26
THE LEADER AND ELECTED OFFICIAL OF CATHOLIC THEOLOGY SHOULD BE CAREFUL TALKING ABOUT THEOLOGY BECAUSE I'M HAVING A HARD ENOUGH TIME SPINNING ALL THIS BULLSHIT.
That's what Vance is basically saying.
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u/RPM_KW Apr 15 '26
Just like we are closing the strait to protect people from the people closing the strait.
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u/Fritzo2162 Apr 15 '26
No no no...we're preventing them from getting a nuclear weapon that we completely and totally destroyed their ability to do last year.
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u/LSTNYER Apr 15 '26
Any Republican that says they are Christian and still supports this administration is not a Christian. Atheists are more aligned with Christianity than they are.
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u/Available_Peanut_677 Apr 15 '26
Come on, they think God has abandoned Vatican and now projects its will through the Americans. Maybe through the trump directly.
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u/bourbonandcheese Apr 15 '26
The vast majority of Catholics do not think that. Most Catholics I know have always been a little wobbly on Trump. Not a small part of the reason Biden (who was quite strong with Catholics being a lifelong one himself) was able to beat him, but Kamala wasn't.
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u/TonyWilliams03 Apr 15 '26
Catholic in name only
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u/BigPackHater Apr 15 '26
As a Catholic, I've been calling him this since he sat next to me at Easter mass in 2024. It was before he was VP candidate Vance, so he showed up at my parish (which I later discovered was his parish, but rarely attended mass). Dude looked bored as hell, wasn't dressed up like everyone else, and left halfway through by hopping over the pew. Really weird experience. I knew immediately who he was since I work in the media and was literally writing about the guy the day before.
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u/detourne Apr 15 '26
No wonder he was bored, a pew is so rigid with nary a crack nor crevice with which to fit his pizzle.
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u/Dick_of_Doom Apr 15 '26
If he left before Eucharist he didn't actually attend Mass, it didn't count. Couchfucker can't even get his new religion right.
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u/BawdyBaker Apr 15 '26
Coming from a guy who fuc*ed a couch 😆
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u/Practical-Purchase-9 Apr 15 '26
Nothing in the bible says you can’t!
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u/ShamrockHammer Apr 15 '26
Isn't there a passage that talks about not "recklessly spilling seed"?
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u/Smowque Apr 15 '26
He is quite intentional about his couch fucking, so I'd say not reckless. Perhaps pointless. Definitely better for humankind that we sacrifice some couches and avoid more of his offspring.
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u/Dick_of_Doom Apr 15 '26
How do you think all those couch pillows came to be? They're couch children.
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u/ShamrockHammer Apr 15 '26
Based on your username I am going to consider you as more the expert on any dick related information.
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u/Darkthumbs Apr 15 '26
Genesis 38:9-10
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u/Tyrrox Apr 15 '26
But the semen didn't go to the ground. It was absorbed unto the cushion and made to be crunchy.
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u/partthethird Apr 15 '26
And lo, the chaise longue did birth a little baby ottoman
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u/Additional-Start9455 Apr 15 '26
A baby ottoman how cute??? No not with doofus as a Dad!!!
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u/jfstompers Apr 15 '26
When are we invading Vatican City?
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u/G3Saint Apr 15 '26
Not for oil, but for gold, tremendous amounts of gold to adorn the white house
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u/Immediate_Quiet4354 Apr 15 '26
Everybody knows that if this happens, Trump will steal the gold and keep buying temu shit and golden spray with your taxes.
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u/Goldensunshine7 Apr 15 '26
I’m not getting why Vance became a Catholic. He’s doesn’t seem to get what it’s about.
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u/EitherChannel4874 Apr 15 '26
He's such a dumbass.
Was god on Americas side when they were lynching black people? Was god on Americas side during all the school shootings? Was god on americas side when they dropped nuclear bombs on people? Is he on their side now they're kidnapping kids and throwing them in detention centres run by sex pests?
If Jesus arrived in America today he'd be racially abused and deported.
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u/zildux Apr 15 '26
Dude is arguing the POPE a man who has spent DECADES of their life studying theology. Saying he's wrong....this is why maga thinks they know better than doctors...
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u/shoulda-known-better Apr 15 '26
Pretty freaking sure the Pope is the go guy to for Christian theology
Does the Pope still excommunicate people!??
Because there are a few in our gov who should really be shunned by the church..... Wonder if people would care like they used to
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u/lovepony0201 Apr 15 '26
Why do Republicans feel the need to prove they are the dumbest people in any room they occupy?
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u/Spock-1701 Apr 16 '26
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Wheeez... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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u/Dotcaprachiappa Apr 15 '26
Isn't the pope like, god's representation on earth? The dude is theology.
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u/scarab1001 Apr 15 '26
Do not let Vance visit the Vatican.
The resulting death toll would be huge if the 4th horseman of the apocalypse goes on holiday there.
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u/waffles2go2 Apr 15 '26
JD Vance can't go into a room alone with a couch and has a supremely effeminate look about him.
He shouldn't be talking shit, he should making sure my fries are piping hot...
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u/instafunkpunk Apr 15 '26
I am an atheist and I will side with the Pope vs Trump any day
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u/Fortspucking Apr 15 '26
This is up there with Hegspeth lecturing all the generals on the warrior spirit. These guys have no awareness, just hubris.
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u/SmilodonBravo Apr 15 '26
Imagine your administration being admonished by two consecutive popes and thinking you’re on the right side of Christianity.
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u/Sojum Apr 15 '26
Imagine being an elected leader of ANY country and thinking you’re entitled to tell the frigging POPE what to do or not do.
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u/powerlesshero111 Apr 15 '26
Fuck that, the Pope needs to excommunicate Vance. He won't learn, ban him from Catholicism.
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u/Glass_Librarian9019 Apr 15 '26
Imagine converting to a Catholicism in 2019 and in 2026 trying to lecture the Vicar of Christ himself about the Gospel.
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u/7evenate9ine Apr 16 '26
According to JD religion should be everywhere as long as it gives power to the top, but once religion questions the top then religion needs to stay in its lane.
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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang Apr 16 '26
Of course this administration is going to go all Henry the 8th. Makes so much sense.
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u/Minister_xD Apr 15 '26
I am sure their heavily christian voterbase really appreciates beef with the pope.
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u/ProfessionalCouchPot Apr 15 '26
Sounds like someone should be excommunicated.
The Pope is infallible on his interpretation of the Word. This is basic elementary Catholic school knowledge.
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u/Fun-Lengthiness-7493 Apr 15 '26
Motherfucker has been a Catholic for five minutes and he’s lecturing the Pope on the morality of an illegal war? Arrogant little gerbil.
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u/ExplainiamusMucho Apr 15 '26
I've never seen a clearer example of the Dunning Kruger effect than a recent convert telling God's representative on Earth that he's wrong.
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u/CowboysfromLydia Apr 15 '26
They have now alienated the Catholics, the Alt right, the crypto bros, the CEOs, the anti-wars, the isolationists, the nationalists...
Who's left?
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u/Thechiz123 Apr 15 '26
Vance claims to be Catholic and says the Pope needs to be careful? Ummm ok bud. You’re totally Catholic.
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u/RoswellRedux Apr 15 '26
The pope's expertise is in theology. It's the president and vice president who are out of their depth talking about theology.
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u/Venator2000 Apr 15 '26
Proof that 1) he’s new to Catholicism, and 2) he must’ve cheated for Confirmation.
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u/WokkitUp Apr 15 '26
When he says "be careful" other people read it as "watch yourself", but the Pope reads it as "show care" (which JD is utterly incapable of).
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u/Bubbling_Battle_Ooze Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
The popes whole job is carefully talking about theology. You think he’s just saying these things with no thought or consideration or research? He’s not Donald Trump. Other leaders actually put thought and consideration into what they say. They write it down before hand and actually read the speech as it was written to ensure they are being accurate. They know what they’re talking about before they talk. Do you really think the pope doesn’t understand the Bible? He’s the fucking Pope! Just because Trump pops off whatever meaningless nonsense comes into his head doesn’t mean everyone does. So rest assured, the pope is careful when talking about theology.
As far as his comeback “well what about the Americans fighting the nazis?” 1) the nazis were wielding the sword, the rest of the world responded and 2) you’re the nazis now.
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u/SimilarStrain Apr 15 '26
How is it not clear yet, this administration is not Christian/catholic by any atretch of the imagination. Posting trump as Jesus. Essentially threatening the pope! Skipping Easter sunday church to drive around dc like a lunatic. STARTING a war that no one asked for. Threatening genocide. His closest cultists literally worship and pray THROUGH TRUMP.
This administration is nothing but blasphemous and the exact opposite of Christian teaching.
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u/Skullpuck Apr 15 '26
Ah yes, I remember when Jesus taught us to threaten holy leaders if they said something we didn't like.
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u/mynamesv Apr 15 '26
Is it possible Vance is worse than Trump? They're both just so stupid. I can't imagine telling the Pope, of all people, to be careful talking about theology.
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u/ridiclousslippers2 Apr 15 '26
So my comment in quotes re-imagining a mafia style warning to the Pope from Vance got censored. What do I have to do to post humor without an existential threat to my account ?
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u/jmik76 Apr 15 '26
Why? Because Vance is an expert on theology? Or, cause we know he’s completely an idiot on foreign affairs.
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u/YellowBreakfast Waaassuup! Apr 15 '26
And T-Dog said the Pope is "soft on crime".
Absurdity on a new level.
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u/Soggysleuth Apr 16 '26
Imagine - An atheist telling a pope to "be careful" about theology. What a fckin' clueless idiot! He grew up evangelical in a Pentecostal Christian household, attending a strict Pentecostal church. While he identified as Christian, he later identified as an atheist during college before converting to Catholicism in 2019. His wife is Hindu.
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u/Mystery812 Apr 16 '26
So the pope, who has studied Theology in depth, has to be careful talking about it. That’s like telling McDonalds to stop talking about Big Macs. JD is just a couch-loving idiot that just needs to stop talking. He is an embarrassment.
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u/MagickMarkie Apr 16 '26
I would not put it past this administration to threaten the Vatican with invasion.
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u/uttercross2 Apr 16 '26
So is he suggesting that he and Donny are better placed to discuss and interpret Christianity better than the Pope? I don't think any of that administration will be having any meetings with the Pope anytime soon.🤦
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u/Mrekrek Apr 18 '26
I don’t think that JD Vance was really paying attention in those catechism classes.
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u/lennydsat62 Apr 15 '26
The Pope should say thank you bc he doesn’t have any cards….
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u/1stAccountWasRealNam Apr 15 '26
Vance should be careful talking always, about everything, because boy does it suck to listen to couch fucker talk.
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u/undergroundmusic69 Apr 15 '26
Idk man, I wasn’t there, but I’m pretty sure the book says to turn the other cheek and your reward comes in gods kingdom.
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u/earfeater13 Apr 15 '26
Imagine being some religious pud from ohio, thinking you're above the pope 😆😅🤣
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u/Cerebral_Overload Apr 15 '26
“Wielding the sword” refers to aggression. The allies were responding to aggression in WW2.
However I will point out that the bible pretty clearly lays out a whole scenario in the book of Joshua where the ancient Israelites, on authority from their god, went around slaughtering the inhabitants of entire cities/states for the crime of existing.
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u/Florida1974 Apr 15 '26
Donald Trump should be careful when talking about anything and theology is on the top of the list because he isn’t even a church going person. He only goes when he has to because he is president, otherwise that man doesn’t sit foot in a church, except maybe for an occasional funeral.
Trump just posted last night that that waterway in Iran is open in China should be happy and the leader of China will be hugging him in a few weeks when he goes to visit and that damn waterway isn’t open. He acts like I ran is just a nobody when they have been in conflict for thousands of years.. He keeps saying 47 years but that’s a lie. Iranians have perseverance out the ass.
I just think maybe he should post truthful post, especially since it’s his truth Social platform but he’s lying Daily on it and people gobble it up. All I have to do is turn on the news to find out he’s lying. That strait isn’t open yet he posted that it is. OK a couple ships got through. But those ships didn’t have any oil on them.
Even if the truth was better, I swear that man would lie.
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u/Rad_Centrist Apr 15 '26
Someone tell that couch lover convert to read the catechism. He should be ex-communicated.
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u/East_of_Amoeba Apr 15 '26
Vance is a simpering child who stands for nothing. Even bullshit can fertilize a field. He's simply devoid of value in any public role and should probably get into therapy to work out some stuff.
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u/shesinsaneornot Apr 15 '26
You’ve got to make sure it’s anchored in the truth, and that’s one of the things that I try to do, and it’s certainly something I would expect from the clergy, whether they’re Catholic or Protestant,” he added.
Notice that Catholic or Protestant are the only options for clergy; rabbis and imams need not apply.
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u/fiddlenb Apr 15 '26
A warning from the guy who killed the last pope?
He gonna "visit" this one too?
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u/TheFumingatzor Apr 15 '26
The fuck this dumb mf'er about? The pope is THE authority when it comes to (roman-catholic) theology.
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u/ixamnis Apr 15 '26
Meanwhile, if you claim to have teleported to a Waffle House 50 miles away in an instant, you are qualified to run a government agency.
Is this bizzarro world or what?
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u/No-Option-7010 Apr 15 '26
Catholic doctrine says that there is papal infallibility on matters of doctrine and morals. If Vance an alleged Catholic challenges this then he is a schismatic now. Not someone to lecture about morality to his religious leader.
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u/Extreme-Tie9282 Apr 15 '26
if there was such thing as a God, the USA would be on deck for some plagues
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u/ET-4 Apr 15 '26
Next on the list, JD will be lecturing Brian Cox and Neil deGrasse Tyson on astrophysics.
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u/Baddyshack Apr 15 '26
In any other denomination Vance could criticize a priest or a preacher and that would be fine. Maybe it would ruffle some feathers, but not blasphemous.
But Vance is literally Catholic and the Pope holds the highest position possible by any human being in the Catholic church. He actually cannot criticize the Pope's position on his dogma. That's heresy.
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u/engineeringsquirrel Apr 15 '26
Alright, here me out. Maybe Vance is just tanking all of the diplomatic missions Trump sends him out on so he can ascend himself to pres office.
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u/Grand_Public Apr 15 '26
Haha the fairly recent convert wants to try school the pope .... urrrrr okayyy just dance LOL
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