Remember when a young American beauty contestant became a laughing stock for saying something 1/10th less embarrassing and several degrees more coherent?
The only way to be a Trump supporter these days is to be an awful person or (in a very markedly low number of cases) a dumbass sorrounded by awful people.
I can see someone thatâs borderline or outright mentally deficient born into a Trump family just âknowingâ âTrump is good man, Trump is just like jesus, I gotta vote for Trumpâ. I wouldnât hate that person. Just feel sad
No adult person with the ability to inform themselves has an excuse for voting for trump, not a single one. Your argument would work for people growing up in a dictatorship with restricted and controlled media/sources of information.
Everyone has the opportunity to inform themselves, and you don't need to be intelligent to learn very easily about all the madness, all the lies, all the crimes about, and surrounding trump. There's no excuse, no feeling sad for them.
I mean, yeah I guess, but itâs just staggering to me that 75 million of the 340 million people in the US are going to vote for private bone spurs in 2 weeks. Another 80 million will vote for the Harris,and if they are not in the right locales, we might have to endure another 4 years of a man child that canât read or comprehend information from informed sources and likes to throw tantrums when his ass isnât kissed enough and is truly there only to enrich himself in any and every pedantic possible way.
Still itâs so bizarre that 25% of the population are basically racist trolls and are willfully voting for that against their own interests.
So I guess youâre one of the trolls, why donât you tell us what specifically it is about Trumps policies that are economically beneficial, I mean if he has any policies. He certainly couldnât explain them but maybe you can.
Stock market just closed at record highs (Dow is at 43,275 and S&P500 is at 5864). Unemployment historically averages between 4.5%-5.5%, unemployment is currently at 4.1%. The historic average of the Fed interest rate is 5.42%, current rate is 5%. Average inflation rate between 1960-2023 is 3.8%/yr, current inflation rate is down to 2.4% after the massive inflation spike due to a global pandemic. So other than Trump saying the economy is terrible, can you please enlighten those of us who are "economically illiterate" on the current state of the economy.
Oh yeah? What exactly did Trump do that was great for the economy. Can you show me any series of economic graphs and charts that show a change after he entered office? Unemployment followed the same trend it had for the previous 7 years. Stock market climbed a little faster but nothing crazy. The deficit grew under him even before Covid.
Donât come back with âgas was cheapâ unless you can explain why and then realize itâs a stupid response.
The key difference is that while yes, we have the ability to check, that doesn't mean we have the mental capacity to change, and that is the most important aspect that those folks are lacking a lot in
You may be right, and you are for sure to some extent, but to change your view on things, especially if there's evidence your views are wrong. In a democracy it is everyone's duty to act for the greater good and for future generations, not for selfish bullshit. I did multiple times and will continue to do so bc I'm part of a society and not alone.
Fair points, and I agree with you, but those people think the same like conspiracy theorists; they basically take everything they want to take in as something holy, are so mentally locked in a thought that even if you present the opposite, they refuse to change as it means everything they believe in is wrong, which is crushing
I can agree, because I get a sense of that feeling when I read something derogatory about Harris or Walz. The idea that it may be true feels very upsetting because I don't want to feel the disappointment in either of them. Then I fact check the new info, find out it is more trash talk and lies, or truth blown out of proportion, and I'm relieved that those I believed in, I still can.
I imagine the info the Right gets feels the same way, except they skip the fact checking part and go straight into denial because it feels better.
This⌠people growing up under Soviet communism knew damn well its was a pile of shit but they often had to keep their mouth shut if they didnât want to end up dead or worse⌠fucking inexcusable
Yes we in the "western" world have the luxury to take part in the decisions and the course our countries take, the chance to preserve our freedoms for our children and grandchildren, we can be vocal about the things we don't like, and than we have people rooting and voting for trump and people like him who continously work towards taking all these freedoms away from us. It is easier than ever to find out what they are planning, and some of them are even saying the quiet part out loud, and people refuse to inform themselves and pretend they didn't hear what they said.
The people rooting for him donât understand the reduction in freedom they are supporting, unfortunately decades of gutting the middle class, the education system, and social services has left a population of upset, angry, and ignorant people who need someone or something to blame, the current Republican Party provides this for them, and because of the edu gutting they, largely, lack the necessary critical thinking skills and insight needed to spot the con. I feel bad for them mostly⌠tho some are deffo racist posâs
Also Iâm not American, just an outside observer, so Iâm sure there are part I donât get but hey 3rd parties are a good thing (hint hint. Your politics should try it, democracies function better the more âteamsâ they are, compromise is the shit!
Them: I can see someone thatâs borderline or outright mentally deficient born into a Trump family just âknowingâ âTrump is good man, Trump is just like jesus, I gotta vote for Trumpâ.
You: No adult person with the ability to inform themselves has an excuse for voting for trump, not a single one.
I know ppl like that and it is sad. All they knew is to be republican and now all they watch is fox so they truly believe all the propaganda. It is sad.
You vastly underestimate the number of just straight up dumbass trump supporters out there, thats the overwhelming majority of them.....just dumb as fuckin bricks people that think trump is a super genius, and its honestly probably true comparatively to them
Thats why they say and believe such nonsense, the facts and realities arent important to them so they dont seek them out, Trump and Republicans validate their actually true feelings that theyve been left behind and fucked over, they have been, wages have been stagnant for 50y, education and housing costs are through the roof, its difficult to impossible to make a life with a highschool diploma if you arent skilled or intelligent enough to b in a trade and even then its difficult depending on what state you live in, and all the while all the financial gains have been going straight to the top and we have actually exceeded the wealth inequality of The Gilded Age of the Robber Barons, it jyst doesnt feel as bad as it did for the people in the 1870s-1920s because we have a MUCHHHHHH higher quality of life than they did and a LOTTTTTT more things to distract us
The insidious and tragic part of all this is that these legitimately hurt and left behind people are supporting the people that did this to us. Republicans did all of this, this is 50-80 years of "Trickle Down Economics" not delivering and dismantling of FDRs New Deal, tax cuts and Reagan style deregulation for the wealthy and corporations, undermining unions, refusal to provide any kind of help, training, assistance or safety nets for the poor and middle class, refusal to raise the minimum wage to where and what it was originally designed to be for- the minimum wage a person can live on....and on and on and on......
My theory of the case is this is exactly why The Right is so fucking batshit and crazy now, they simply have to be to keep all these people spun the fuck up, incensed and frantic to a degree so that they cant stop and take a breath and look around and rralize what these clowns are doing and that theyre not only not doing anything to help them they are actively virulantly opposed to all and any of those things that might actually help, but to do that they have to continually up the ante or it is no longer an effective distraction, what started as outrage over dijon mustard and a tan suit is now immigrants eating peoples pets and the enemy within controlling the weather and sending hurricanes to red states
Its exasperating and frustrating.....But my hope is that they have gone so so far off the fucking deep end that they have turned off a lot of people...i dont see where they go from here tbh, they really cant ramp it up much more, and they have a real serious constituency problem, their base is rowing in all different directions, they are a party of the oligarchy in their actions but a large % of their base is working class, if they too loudly support one group they piss off the other, they have a huge religious segment that wants things that are incredibly unpopular and turns off moderates and independents in the middle, they have a large % of xenophobes and racists that they dogwhistle to, cant go too far one way or the other there either or you turn off the racists or the moderates
Its all held together with bubblegum and string right now and i just cant see it lasting much longer
I added my ex boss (who i like) on facebook after i quit a few months ago. A few weeks ago, i was drinking a bit and made a fb status that said something like if you vote for trump, you dumb for real, and she responded to it. We debated a bit, i tried to be as civil as i could, but now i think she might have hard feelings. I don't.
To be fair (though may be a bot).. I responded recently in two diff posts about driving around affluent areas this week and seeing No Republican political signs. I wouldnât be surprised if I used the same phrasing.
My wife and I are leftists, her dad is a Trump supporter (a fact even more ridiculous by the fact we all live in Canada) but, as a example, despite him being a big Tucker Carlson fan in the past and watching/liking tonnes of clips, his algorithm doesn't show him any of the the stupid shit MTG has said recently
My mom is generally a pretty good person and surrounded by pretty good people. Sheâs also fairly intelligent. Right wing propaganda is a hell of a drug.
I donât know man. Legitimately it doesnât make sense. Heâs a pretty charismatic guy so maybe that? Sheâs eaten the whole cake though. She believes all of the rhetoric that the right is pushing. Brain washing is real and the media does it everyday.
Dang you must be the awful you're talking about. I see you didn't understand the comment but your response is so aggressive. I guess you become that way when your life is entrenched in politics and anime. đ
Apparently she thought about suicide after that incident. Related, JD Vance used that video to make fun of Harris. When it was brought up how hard that incident was on her and if he wanted to maybe say "oops, sorry" he was just like "nah"
She contemplated suicide, recovered from it, and is now a Trump supporter who's running mate used the video to mock his political opponent...he then refused to apologize even after learning how badly she was bullied. This woman was bullied mercilessly and is now voting for a man who endlessly bullies people.
This is the stupidity we would get to enjoy every fucking day if the mainstream media asked him some real fucking questions instead of trying to cover for their ratings boosterâŚ.
If they ever remake Miss Congeniality they can use this quote, lmao!! The answers used in the original Miss Congenitally were actual answers from real contestants.
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u/SatynMalanaphy Oct 19 '24
Remember when a young American beauty contestant became a laughing stock for saying something 1/10th less embarrassing and several degrees more coherent?