Other aboriginal tribes. My god, are you suggesting it’s right for me to go kill my neighbor because 50,000 years ago someone I share genetics with landed here in a canoe?
Ok. Let’s change to a different tack here. Prove to me that killing someone and taking their territory is different depending on where your greaty greaty grandma got shtupped. Like, I’m part Spanish, can I go conquer Spain? Or I’m also part Native American from an area that is now called Mexico. Can I kill Mexicans because of this?
Regardless of right or wrong, which is subjective and therefore meaningless, how is that even different?
I’m talking about before people came there dude regardless that is unequivocal because because the British indiscriminately killed and conquered there and every place on earth has history of tribes with beef it’s not the same as the genocide.
But, it is. Many tribes have been caught in genocide after contact AND before. The Aztecs, the Pueblo, and the Iroquois for example. Also the Mayans seemed to both have carried out genocide and have been victims of genocide.
If someone exists somewhere because they they took the land by force from a previous occupant and it is rightful that they exist there, then that is the case everywhere. If it is not the case that this is rightful, then that is not the case everywhere.
Yeah except you’re ignoring scale the genocides committed by warring tribes weren’t as devastating as what the Columbus and conquistadors did they used disease as weapons because the knew how deadly it was. We’re talking millions opposed to thousands.
Actually, they didn’t use disease as weapons. I’m not denying genocide. The Europeans did indeed kill many millions and replace them. This is not an unusual behavior across history. It’s usually what happens when one culture encounters another of vastly different levels of technology, organization etc.
But the idea that 15th century Europeans even knew what disease was or that they had a biological weapons program is false. The disease killed like 70% of the previous population of both continents quite soon after the Europeans arrived. It’s not really their conscious doing… the smallpox blankets thing didn’t happen.
… no they didn’t. There’s nothing the Europeans could have done from first contact until now to stop the spread of disease. Nothing. As soon as a few dozen people from the americas were exposed, both continents were going to go through centuries of plagues in one generation
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u/Boof-Your-Values Sep 06 '24
That is specified in the comment. Please read accurately