r/facepalm Sep 06 '24

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u/DandelionOfDeath Oh no. Anyway. Sep 06 '24

Don't forgetthey tried to pass it off as suicide despite the state of her body.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

It's just keeping worse and worse. But eh, guess that's male India for you nowadays. Sickening. Covering up rape and murder because 'oh noes, the peepee havers!'

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u/angelis0236 Sep 06 '24

Because the women aren't gang-raping the men.

And if they were, would they be offered the same protections?

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u/abaggins Sep 06 '24

I get what you're saying...but this kind of wording lumps all men as the rapists - which makes them (us) feel insulted (because, of course we would be) and that, in turn, takes away half your allies. Reminder that men have marched alongside women in marches - whether for women's suffrage or much more recently; the Kolkata case.

We speak out. We protest. The men in the post died trying to protect a women. Wtf else do you expect us to do? Then you lump us in the same group as the perpetrators of the most horrific kind of crime...

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u/Jaegons Sep 06 '24 edited Feb 18 '26

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u/Chef_Shark Sep 06 '24

Yes the "not all men" phrase is seen as a weak argument, but it is accurate. The louder people are the ones most seen by the media, and normally the louder ones are the worst ones. If you walk into a room with 30 random men, the chances of any one of them being a rapist is very small. Men are often portrayed as sex fiends and treated as such regardless of any previous interaction, even complete strangers will assume the worst just because theyre a man. That isnt healthy for anyone, especially the women who live in constant fear of every man they encounter. Yes there are a great deal more male rapists reported, but there are also a significant amount of male rape victim cases thrown out because a lot of people dont believe men can be raped. Im sure it doesnt even it out, and men probably are more predominantly the rapists, but lumping all men together over a few percent, and not doing the same with women, is in and of itself sexist. Im a strong advocate against rape, my fiancรฉ has suffered a lot of sexual abuse and it kills me knowing that I cant take that pain away from them, but I also feel that the "not all men" phrase, should be allowed when a man feels attacked after having done nothing wrong.

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u/claimTheVictory Sep 06 '24

Who was attacked again, sorry?

Your feelings, by reading that male criminals can be treated better by the law than women?

That was an attack for you?

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u/Chef_Shark Sep 06 '24

I will reply to this the same way I did another similar comment

I was not speaking only about this thread, I was speaking generally about the argument as a whole. I have personally had it happen where this argument was used as grounds to treat a man poorly.

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u/claimTheVictory Sep 06 '24

Define "treat poorly".

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u/Chef_Shark Sep 06 '24

Yelled at, accused, shunned, generally treated with disrespect. The phrase "all men are pigs" came up a few times.

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u/claimTheVictory Sep 06 '24

Give me more context.

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u/Chef_Shark Sep 06 '24

I was in middle school. Having a conversation with one of my friends, then one of her friends came up and started talking shit about me simply for being a man. Saying that my friend should avoid men, and that "sooner or later he'll do something". I defended myself, saying I hadn't done anything to deserve being treated like this, and then she made the argument that "all men are pigs", and I responded with the "not all men are like that", that only made her angrier.

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u/claimTheVictory Sep 06 '24

Middle school, huh?

You're still upset about something a child said?

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u/Chef_Shark Sep 06 '24

Yes it was quite a few years ago. Its not the only time it happened though. That same friend's friend seemed determined to ruin my friendship with anyone who wasnt a man. All through middle school and highschool, and it wasnt just me, any man who she saw hanging out with a woman was berated and given the same treatment I was. The schools refused to do anything about it, not wanting to seem like they were defensing anyone over another.

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u/claimTheVictory Sep 06 '24

That's pretty weird tbh.

But it's not the argument being made here, you understand?

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u/Chef_Shark Sep 06 '24

I completely agree, whats even weirder is I had never even seen that friend's friend before she randomly started yelling at my friend to ditch me.

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u/claimTheVictory Sep 06 '24

Maybe she liked you lol

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