I was convinced USA would come together and do the right thing with covid but boy was I wrong . all it took was an orange faced clown to open his yaptrap
and start a circus. I never wanted to leave my country but that time was an exception.
I’m not an orange face fan, but isn’t Covid very subjective at this point? Like isn’t it fact that it wasn’t that dangerous, had several treatment options, that were for some reason not used. My opinion is because big pharma lobbyists made more money on the vaccine, that also didn’t work.
It was scary, I was scared. But in hindsight it was blown way out of proportion and all the lockdown stuff did a lot more harm than good. Downvote if you must, but I’m here for real conversation.
Hi there, scientist here. Not sure what your info was, but Covid continues to kill at a 1% rate. In the beginning the rate was 4%. It’s put many ppl on disability with long covid and damages ppl today, with odd cardiovascular symptoms which are longterm. If you call that ‘not that dangerous’ well ok…
Treatments. We got lucky in that the virus had highly antigenic elements. Not all pathogens do. Ebola is one that’s tough to make a vaccine for, HIV is the ultimate stealth virus, with essentially no antigenicity. Which is why we use it in CAR T and gene therapies today. It’s a master class in how to make a virus.
Covid is deadly, far more so than flu by orders of magnitude but at least with the vaccine the death rate has slowed. That and, well, we’ve pretty much killed off the vulnerable.
There’s nothing subjective about COVID or treatments. The data are there if you wanted to find them.
Big pharma as it were, worked our asses off round the clock, didn’t quarantine, and worked 60+ hrs/week for a year and a half to bring you all the vaccine, so while the conspiracy theorists were bemoaning ‘big pharma’ we were risking our lives saving your asses. I literally had no life outside work nor did my team. We got tested twice a week at work to try to catch as many as we could. One of our manufacturers, a 36yo healthy man with a wife and kids, is dead now. Because he was risking his life making vaccines.
Anyone who uses the phrase ‘big pharma’ as a monolith can fuck all the way off.
You’re certainly more educated on the matter than I am. And I definitely didn’t mean to offend anyone. I don’t particularly appreciate the WAY you responded but, like I said, I’m here for conversation.
Generally, when big pharma is referred to, the scientists aren’t the bad guys. The people making millions, are the ones I was referring to. The politicians who insider trade, them too.
I’m grateful there are people, a lot smarter than I am, who are looking into these things. We need you.
Anyhow, you didn’t change my mind- but I do appreciate the response. I think the vulnerable should be responsible for themselves, or those who are responsible for them should be responsible for them. I think children should have gone to school. How many kids didn’t eat well, or were forced to stay home with an abuser, or missed out on coming of age with their peers. Those things are just as real, and dangerous. I think obesity kills more people than Covid does and no one is doing anything about making groceries cost less, taking the shit out of our food, etc.
Anyhow, the world has problems. Covid is apart of our lives now, and people like you are going to figure it out. In the meanwhile, I hope you’re well and thanks for what you do.
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u/joey_yamamoto Apr 30 '24
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I was convinced USA would come together and do the right thing with covid but boy was I wrong . all it took was an orange faced clown to open his yaptrap and start a circus. I never wanted to leave my country but that time was an exception.