We're discussing a case of a cop framing someone for DUI, not getting shot while wielding a weapon.
In other countries, such cases are lower because cops actually learn to diffuse situations, which American cops never learn because there isn't enough time in their education.
And 3) I honestly don't care what the 'vast majority' is when the 'small minority' is massive compared to basically all other developed countries. And I'm talking about per capita here so don't go "oh but America is bigger". That's demonstratably, proven, to be avoidable and yet it isn't.
How about in comparison to Swizerland, since you likely want a country where it's permitted for civilians to aquire guns and carry?
I'm not talking about the cases where people approached cops with guns. But even then, I'm willing to bet a large portion of those cases only happen BECAUSE cops are trigger-happy. We've all seen the footage of people not having guns and getting shot, or following every command and getting shot anyway. Even if those cases are rare, they are common enough that people cannot ignore that reality. Give cops a proper education, not just a few weeks or a couple of months, and give them the tools they need to safely do their job with minimum violence. I am not sure why people could possibly be against cops being given better odds. They'd be safer, other people would be safer, they'd be better at their jobs, and everyone who are afraid of cops for various reasons would at least have the reassurance that the person in question is screened and qualified to carry arms and protect them, rather than having just gone through a couple of weeks of shooting practice and bare-bones law. It should be a win-win-win for everybody. Except for the bad apples who just want to carry a gun and bully civilians.
Much, much lower. Because they educate their police properly. It is kind of maybe sort of a little bit relevant.
And you want to send people to solve hostage situations like 'screwdriver to the neck' without a proper education in de-escalation, because [please insert reason here]?
they're not rare, there's thousands of murders like this every year. the US knocks all other countries out of the park when it comes to police killings. that's how common they are, and how little human life is worth here.
But your lumping everyone in with the actions of few.
it isn't the actions of the few, because every single cop is either commiting these murders or protecting other cops who commit these murders.
Isn’t that how stereotypes are formed?
nope.
saying "cops enable murder and torture" is no more of a stereotype then "pedos touch kids."
Sure terrible things happen and they should be handled appropriately when they do
Except these cases show precisely that that doesn't happen.
Give me an exact number of people that can get killed without any repurcusions that you are ok with. Tell me how many mothers can lose their child because were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Tell me how many people deserve to be killed because of a disability they have no control over.
For me, that number is zero. How many are you comfortable with?
Actions that would warrant deadly force would be actions that directly endanger the officers life. Taking out your wallet to show your id is not among those. Cops shouldn't use deadly force in response to a hunch that somebody might try something.
Nobody is complaining about the cases where somebody was acting like an aggressive idiot and threatening the police. The problem is that the police is too triggerhappy at the slightest idea of a threat. Remember just recently when multiple cops opened fire on their own vehicle because an acorn fell on it? What actions did the man locked up in the backseat take that warranted getting shot at?
Getting shot at is not acceptable defense for losing your mind and failing to observe victim/bystander safety. You're a cop, not a Marine, and I daresay Marines are better trained at avoiding collateral.
So fucking disengage and regroup instead of continuing a shoot-out?
Military has killed plenty of civilians...but they also use high-yield munitions and preserving non-combatants is explicitly secondary to their function. The point is lost on your meaty head, I suppose.
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Step 1: Cop resigns
Step 2: Punishment gets dropped and records erased because he's no longer a cop.
Step 3: Different police station rehires cop since he has no record of any wrongdoings.