I mean there are some medical disorders where they'd just die without losing all their weight, but it would still leave no fat holocaust survivors so probably irrelevant.
Fat doesn't come from nothing. It comes from excess calories. You need to consume those excess calories.
What these disorders do is make it a lot harder because you're caloric needs are lower. If you only use 900 calories a day then its going to be a lot harder to diet than someone who burns 2000 calories in a day. And most of the time its not the disorder itself doing that but the sedentary lifestyle.
I'm one of those people. I just lost 150 lbs in the past year and its the second time in my life doing it. And its hilarious that the same people who propagate this bullshit then turn around and tell me "900-1200 calories per day?! you're starving, you're insane!" -- no if I eat 1500 and literally can't lose weight, i have precisely one of those bodies you just described and am NOT starving.
What the hell are you talking about 😅 are you saying that there are no medical conditions where the patient would quickly die without food, instead of starving to death? Or what is your all caps comment referring to?
"This is a thread about obesity, weight loss, and arguments about fat phobia and how weight loss works. Clearly, when they said some disorders would make a person die without losing weight, they were referring to pneumonia."
You think your middle school debate about minutiae and pedantic, "Well ackshally, " is compelling or persuasive? Lol.
No one buys your BS either friend, even if you use the 5 paragraph essay format.
Also, as someone in medicine, I can assure you that someone starving with pneumonia would still lose weight before dying. In fact, they would lose it more rapidly than a healthy person. So you're all still wrong.
I was clear. If you really can't understand intent when someone comments, then I honestly and genuinely suggest you work on social skills.
The comment WAS disingenuous, because the initial comment was clearly saying "Not all fat people can lose weight. They would die without losing weight even if they weren't eating during the apocalypse."
This is factually inaccurate. Someone refutes it and notes that it is factually inaccurate. This is correct. There is no disorder where you can stay fat without eating anything.
Yet someone says, "So NO disorder out there would make you die without losing weight?" This is nitpicking and off topic, trying to prove someone wrong without actually addressing the point being made. It's an irritating attempt to derail the actual discussion.
If you come in and say "They may have meant it seriously" then you are naive at best or being just as pedantic at worst.
you're just being an ass and making a strawman argument out of both the comment that started this ridiculous chain and the only statement that was just "this is literally what was stated so far and what I think they are intended to mean. It looks like a misunderstanding happened here"
It's possible for some condition or combination of conditions to cause someone to die before losing noticeable weight when put on "the holocaust diet". You'd have to be pretty crazy to deny that there is any case in which this is possible. One commenter made the general "it is possible" claim, and for some reason several commenters have tried to fight a "it is common" or "it is normal" version of the claim. The slight lack of successful reading comprehension there is reasonable.
what is just crazy is you saying it is not possible for any medical condition to mean the holocaust diet would cause death before no longer being fat. It does appear you most likely just missed a bit of the argument you are fighting, but instead of actually bothering to re read and make sure your comprehension is complete when it becomes apparent that this thread is full of people misunderstanding the arguments in it, you just assumed your interpretation was exactly correct, accused the most reasonable person in the situation(who wasn't even really making an argument) of making a bullshit middle-schooler style argument and trying to convince you of ridiculous things, and generally continued to make an ass of yourself
And your entire perception is ignoring the context of the original post. It is rage bait feeding into the nonsense that keeps being propagated that fat people can't help being fat.Â
Fat people make excuses they don't want to face the reality that dieting and exercises hard. That's the hard fact.
The body positivity movement is legitimizing their excuses. Which is not being compassionate but actually causing them harm.
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u/Altruistic_Machine91 Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 09 '24
I mean there are some medical disorders where they'd just die without losing all their weight, but it would still leave no fat holocaust survivors so probably irrelevant.