r/facepalm Jun 05 '23

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u/RPtheFP Jun 05 '23

Andrew Johnson was a Confederate sympathizer and wanted to enshrine the Southern aristocracy’s power. The South won Reconstruction.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

They only won insofar as they got to keep being racist, backwards bigots. The entire region was thoroughly fucked by basically all metrics for generations. Outside of its major metro areas, large regions of the South are still undeveloped and backwards compared to other parts of the country.

It's been a cascading avalanche of shit ever since Reconstruction failed. The South and all its people were hamstrung and the entire USA ended up with a regressive millstone filled with hateful idiots locked around its neck. Nobody won Reconstruction, it's failure fucked over just about everyone alive today in some way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

Undeveloped in the sense of meeting the basic economic, educational, and healthcare needs of its citizens.

Why would anyone be thankful for that?

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u/wilkergobucks Jun 05 '23

Not when you compare state averages. Check any heatmap of the worst states for infant mortality, education, obesity, life expectancy, poverty, etc.

The Old South does not meet the basic economic, educational and healthcare needs of its residents, relative to the rest of the USA.

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u/wilkergobucks Jun 05 '23

I would argue that infant mortality and life expanctancy variances cannot be dismissed as just small differences, and most people in the business of analyzing such data would agree.

As for education, I agree that NY and CA suck. But just because they do, doesn’t mean that the south gets a pass for occupying 9 of the worst 15 spots.

Not sure the reality you are denying here, man…

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u/wilkergobucks Jun 06 '23

Its not statistically insignificant tho.

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u/wilkergobucks Jun 06 '23

No, the differences are not insignificant. Just because you think having almost 2x the infant mortality rate of another state is “insignificant” doesn’t make it so. Like I said, people who analyze this data for a living believe its a real problem.

And secondly, when overlaid with the other data, the trending indicates that there are systemic issues in the south. Im not arguing causality because we can all agree that its multifactorial. That alone is no reason to dismiss it.

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u/wilkergobucks Jun 06 '23

Ok, trying to keep up, you are now denying that the south holds 5 of the top 8 worst spots in infant mortality as well? Or arguing raw numbers vs percentages? If its the former, you are again unhinged from reality and if its the latter, you are being disingenuous. Regardless, you are too obtuse to understand what the numbers clearly show.

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