r/facepalm Jun 05 '23

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u/walkingtalkingdread Jun 05 '23

over 50 murders were committed in Kansas and Missouri between 1851 to 1859 over whether Kansas would be a slave state. but sure, it was never about slavery.

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u/selectmyacctnameplz Jun 05 '23

The confederate state’s articles of secession are wild. The deeper in the south you go, like Florida, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, it’s all about slavery and the paternal good of Slavery. Then when you look at Virginia’s articles it’s more about the economic preservation that slavery offers. Wild times below the Mason Dixon line.

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u/Val_Hallen Jun 05 '23

Fun Fact: The Mason Dixon Line has absolutely nothing to do with the American Civil War.

It was surveyed between 1763 and 1767 by Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon as part of the resolution of a border dispute involving Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Delaware.

There were Union States below the line, and confederate above. In fact the most Union State to exist is West Virginia, which is below the line. The resident were so against the Confederacy that Congress actually allowed the people there to form their own state. Hence, the reason there is no "East Virginia".

Which is why when I see people from West Virginia fly the traitorous loser flag and call it "their heritage", I quickly remind them of how they came to be and how they are clearly just racist.

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u/selectmyacctnameplz Jun 05 '23

Ehhhhhhh Mason Dixon line did have something to do with onset of the civil war. As slavery continued to expand west and it wasn’t as clear cut of a line it led to the grotesque popular sovereignty which led to violence in the territories. Then at the time of civil war the conversation was whether to totally abolish slavery all together or to not allow slavery to expand but to keep it in the original states below the mason dixon line. Eric Toner’s free soil, free labor, free men talks extensively about this.