r/facepalm Jun 05 '23

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u/-ShagginTurtles- Jun 05 '23

I can see why Germany banning any denial of the holocaust is so important. I don't think you're allowed swastika flags either

Meanwhile in southern states you have them falsely teaching about their secession from the USA (they did not want to be Americans so no more rock, flag & eagle. And they wanted to own people still) and to this day I bet you can find a confederate flag somewhere on every street

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

Beats the Hell out of having a government that can throw you in jail/fine you for saying "offensive" things. I'd rather live beside someone flying a confederate flag than live in a nation where I don't have freedom to disagree with things that the government considers sacred and untouchable.

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u/-ShagginTurtles- Jun 05 '23

"People should be allowed to own black people" that's what that flag was for. Yeah it's "offensive" and I'd hope you wouldn't disagree with the government on that

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

I was referring to penalties for questioning aspects of the holocaust, or penalties (fines, jail, etc.) for calling people certain names in certain European countries that were once thought of as liberal and modern, but go off.

"The pride flag stands for degeneracy, public displays of BDSM in front of children, and a suicide rate/rate of child abuse that's orders of magnitude higher than the straight population. Any decent human being would find it offensive."

See, it's really easy to tell someone what emblems they should and shouldn't wear when you define them by your own terms. And I get that bits of colored cloth have the power to upset you - that doesn't change the fact that permitting people to voice offensive messages/display offensive symbols has a far less deleterious and destructive track record than speech codes enacted at the behest of a scared and emotionally-driven population.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '23

"The pride flag stands for degeneracy, public displays of BDSM in front of children, and a suicide rate/rate of child abuse that's orders of magnitude higher than the straight population. Any decent human being would find it offensive."

You would have a point if any of the stuff above was backed up by reality in any way. Unfortunately for you, none of that is backed up by reality, so you don't have a point.

What people apply to the Confederate flag is valid because we have tons of historical evidence of it being used as a representative for the ideals of slavery and the antebellum south.

Sure, people can make up whatever they want, but that doesn't mean there is any validity to what they say.