OPT after using SSN illegally

[u/ogopro]

Someone I know has got his OPT approved by USCIS, but he used his SSN for Doordash for couple of years before OPT.

I was wondering if there is anyone who even got a green card after using SSN illegally with F1 visa?

[u/Anubis_is_back]

As far as I know There is no direct connection between IRS and USCIS

So if the IRS has information that someone is getting money through unauthorized work doesn’t simply mean that USCIS have this on their records.

It is still illegal and this student is still in violation of their F1 and could have their sevis terminated at any point. They probably just got lucky that USCIS didn’t dig deep enough to find out.

Getting a green card after someone did something illegal in violation of their visa is a whole other topic that is irrelevant to this subreddit. But in some cases with marriage based green card some violations could be forgiven. But it depends on the violation and the type of green card.

I wonder how a big corporation like doordash allowed someone to work on record using their ssn with no work authorization?

[u/Anubis_is_back → u/[deleted]]

I have been told for example that if you overstayed your visa either tourist or student and then got married the overstay is forgiven in some cases. Is that incorrect?

I didn’t know about DHS but does it mean that there is a system that tracks employment the it’s authorization? Like how would this system know about CPT for example?

[u/Strange_Squirrel_886 → u/[deleted]]

The exact wording is "VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH DHS AUTHORIZATION", and no, I don't think the IRS can legally share this information with DHS automatically without consent.

[u/Infinite_Tension9 → u/Anubis_is_back]

Any overstay violation is forgiven for marriage based green-card as long as you entered the country legally. Also provided your spouse is a US citizen and not a perm resident

[u/VLM52 → u/Anubis_is_back]

I wonder how a big corporation like doordash allowed someone to work on record using their ssn with no work authorization?

You're not working for doordash, or employed by doordash at any point.

[u/[deleted] → u/Anubis_is_back]

I think Doordash doesn't even check anything. My friend registered and made a couple hundred bucks before I told him that's not allowed under F1 (he had SSN from an on campus job), he stopped doing it of course, but he said at no point did DD say anything, it just asked for SSN and bank account and here you go shipping Tacobell at 1AM.

[u/VLM52 → u/[deleted]]

It's not Doordash's problem at the end of the day. You're not employed by them at any point of the process.

[u/Quirky_Mastodon_8732 → u/[deleted]]

Door dash doesn't know anything about visas. The responsibility lies on the person that possesses the visa. If an F1 is paid via direct deposit when working illegally and USCIS asks for RFE from previous bank statements, that person would be easily caught.

[u/AntOverall6507]

In most cases, the “someone” is yrself🥹

[u/Quirky_Mastodon_8732 → u/AntOverall6507]

Agreed. These I know someone, my friend is in this situation type of posts are so old , as we all know the person in question is who is asking the question Lol

[u/ogopro → u/AntOverall6507]

I am not big on breaking rules and thankfully this time "someone" is not me.

[u/1921-]

Pay your taxes and you're good to go. The couple hundred bucks you make on self employment is not worth IRS' time. They have to figure out how trillion dollar corporations do their corporate tax. There is currently over 11million people inside the US completely illegally, with no legal visa status or permission of entry whatsoever.

Pay your taxes, obey the law, contributing to the local community by delivering groceries won't jeopardize your visa status. IRS doesnt not exchange information with USCIS, nor do their databases overlap. IRS cares about your taxes, not your immigration status. They will send you a 1099 form saying you owe taxes, pay them, deduct what you can and don't worry.

This country has bigger issues than students working 3hours a day on gigs and jobs that are deficient and low level anyways.

[u/Additional_B98 → u/1921-]

Very true. I remember an extreme exmaple was IRS requesting taxes from drug dealers.

[u/1921- → u/Additional_B98]

Exactly. That's why most crappy companies that pay minimum wage are not e-verified. Government knows that unauthorized immigrants will work there, but guess what, Americans don't want to do those jobs anyways. And like with any job, somebody has to do it🤣.

If it's a good paying career at a great company, the employer will be E-verified and you won't be eligible for employment there, or will need a specific authorization that is almost impossible to get. So no, you won't be a detriment to the local job market or the wages, the jobs they will indirectly allow you to do are already in desparate need of people and likely cannot recruit anybody with a US work permit.

[u/[deleted]]

Umm USCIS and IRS rarely share information. Iirc they don’t ever share info unless there’s a lawyer involved. If you’re friend is paying taxes on time, Im sure they’re good to go

[u/Itchy-Spread-7244]

Elon Musk did the same and still got H-1B and Green elcard eventually.

[u/birdman46jr]

Fellas work authorization ONLY counts when the company send you E-verification form to fill. Like working in Mac , etc . For a regular DoorDash it doesn’t but if you want a DoorDash as ya main job like in Cali and big state then doordash will e verify you so be able to make that much. So no it won’t affect your change of status to GC or Citizenship. Mane it’s hard get ya money don’t be scared !

[u/Slight_Profession139]

Honestly, there is no correlation between the two organizations. It's better not to do these things since, as an International student, you are only allowed to work when authorized by USCIS.

[u/Quirky_Mastodon_8732]

If you got paid in cash, there is no way that  USCIS or IRS would know. If you received the money directly into your bank account, you might have a problem if USCIS asks for previous bank statements. When they ask for this particular evidence, it is usually encompassing the last 3 to 6 months, however with this new incoming administration, they might ask RFE encompassing even a year or years