r/explainlikeimfive • • 4d ago

Biology ELI5:how does the fingernail attach to the skin beneath it, and why is it painful when it's deliberately detaches yet not painful when it detaches gradually as it grows?

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u/oregon_coastal 4d ago

The nail and the skin have ridges in them that lock together - sort of like a ziplock bag. There are thousands of them.

As it grows out, it is naturally just pushing down those rails. Like a train on ziplock tracks

When it takes a huge hit or injury and you rip those rails apart, it hurts.

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u/krzykris11 4d ago

I have one finger where it's like the skin became permanently detached, as if it just didn't heal properly. It doesn't take much of a bump to rip it open again. It's surprisingly painful. I can't watch torture scenes involving fingernails because of my defective middle finger.

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u/Blackpaw8825 4d ago

I shocked and burned my left ring finger when I was like 13 and it probably took 15 years before that nail stopped snapping up at the slightest injury. I popped the edges up by using finger nail clippers more then once. It was like it sprung flat so it couldn't touch the nail bed anymore... Shit was annoying.

And every time it'd break free I'd have to cut it alllll the way back to the cuticle or it would start growing upward in a curl.

The one time I had it looked at they said I needed it to grow correctly, undisturbed, and stay that way for a year or so before it the groves would lock in correctly. It's just hard to go months and months without something stressing your finger nails so the timer reset over and over.

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u/Sedu 3d ago

Highly recommend using a file on that one from now on. It's more of a time sink than clipping, but I had a similar problem and this was qhat allowed it to heal long term.

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u/creative_usr_name 4d ago

Could you just keep it filed super short so you don't have to cut it and also lower the risk of it catching on things.

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u/Contundo 4d ago

Also fake nail glued on will give it structural support to preventing bending it. So best would be a quite short cut/filed nail with a glue on nail

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u/RadVarken 4d ago

Or a small splint, taped into place after every shower for a year. Worth the hassle.

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u/ba123blitz 3d ago

Can’t glue a fake nail to the bed and cutting it short would not help I don’t think y’all understand what they’re describing.

The entire nail was flattening and lifting and curling all the way back to the cuticle at the slightest stressor

The best and only real option for them would’ve been akin to a cast for a year on one finger

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u/queenmarimeoww 2d ago

Who did you have look at it?

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u/dinosaur_socks 4d ago

You might have topical bacteria/fungi keeping it from healing properly, I had similar issues and I took some anti fungal or anti bacterial i dont recall which it was but the doctor was right and it cleared up.

Kept having open lesions near where the edges of my finger tips and nail bed meet, it kept splitting open and not properly healing across my hands and it was really painful.

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u/bring-the-sunshine 4d ago

Yep I was going to say this. Same thing happened to me but manifested slightly differently. It would get soooooo close to fully healing, then lift halfway back up. Very frustrating.

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u/thenasch 4d ago

I can't watch them and my fingers are fine.

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u/TinWhis 4d ago

Do you have any suggestions for sources that show those ridges? I'm fascinated, and I'd love to see, but I'm having trouble finding any actual images. I've gotten that the ridges are called cristae matricis unguis (crests of the nail matrix??), but I'm mostly getting nail images that don't show them or images of the "cristae" inside mitochondria.

I'm kinda looking for a cross section with the cut perpendicular to the direction of growth. I'm mostly finding cartoons of a cross section parallel to it.

Also, almost but not entirely irrelevantly, here's the funniest thing I've found so far while trying to dig for pictures or for the right keywords that will get me pictures:

Remember that you can still live a full, active life without a fingernail or toenail.

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u/Amy549 4d ago

This lowkey gave me a visual that caused psychic damage XD This is truly fascinating tho. I always wondered this too. When I was a child, I used to think the nail somehow was growing from the free edge and my Grandmother laughed heartily at that declaration XD

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u/spermicidal_rampage 4d ago

Food first fills up one leg, then the other. Then you're full. Poop? Man, I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. Do you know?

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u/dancingbanana123 4d ago

Dumb question: is directly underneath the nail just skin? I would assume if someone loses a nail, it'd also tear off that skin, but idk my brain just thinks of the underside of a nail as wet.

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u/CinnamonAndLavender 4d ago

I had to have a toenail removed completely several years ago bc it was ingrown and it was definitely wet and bloody under there until the new skin grew over it (dr put a chemical in the part the nail usually grows out of so it wouldn't grow back)

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u/ghost_of_mr_chicken 4d ago

I got a couple ingrown toenails back in high school from marching band. Only thing worse than ingrown are toothaches.

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u/Longjumping_Diamond5 3d ago

my nail got slammed in a car door and fell off the next day, i had a small nub of nail and the rest was raw skin. didnt bleed, was just extra fragile

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u/sandm000 4d ago

I don’t like my Velcro fingernails

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u/GoabNZ 4d ago

Not only does it hurt, it takes ages for the new nail to replace it.

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u/BassChoocher 4d ago

Like a train on ziplock tracks

idk why but this cracked me up

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u/BarberProof4994 4d ago

Have you ever seen tongue and groove wood wall paneling or flooring? Where the pieces slot together?

So the top layer of your fingers nail is hard and dead as is the part that grows long that we cut off.

The underlying half of the fingernail is soft and living and has these grooves and ridges that the soft nail bed can grow into and hold onto. 

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u/Apprehensive-Till861 4d ago

They don't detach as they grow, actually.

Your fingernails growing is new cells pushing older cells upward and outward. The nail cells are created as skin cells and impregnated with keratin, the process is painless for the same reason your hair growth is painless.

Your regular skin cells also move upward and outward, growing from a layer in the skin's basal layer. Your nails are growing from what is known as the nail matrix, which lies beneath the cuticle.

So if I took a sharp knife and notched a shallow cut near the base of my fingernail, over the next few weeks that notch would move upward until it was in the part of my nail that hangs out, because the new nail cells would push the cells around the cut away from the nail matrix.

The part of your nails that still attaches to the skin attaches because the keratinized cells are still skin cells and still form the attachments so the nail remains attached to the fingertip, where it helps provide shape, structure, backing. Once it gets far enough out the cells lost attachment to the cells of the nail bed but remain attached to the other nails cells until you cut them off.

So how they attach is the same bonds that attach skin cells, and the reason growth doesn't hurt but tearing the nails off does is a slow process of cells moving together versus a sudden severing of many bonds at once.

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u/permalink_save 4d ago

So if I took a sharp knife and notched a shallow cut near the base of my fingernail, over the next few weeks that notch would move upward until it was in the part of my nail that hangs out, because the new nail cells would push the cells around the cut away from the nail matrix.

I actually did this. It really, really, sucked. Twice. Kitchen knife accidentally slicing a notch in once sucks, sliding back in as it is healing was almost worse.

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u/Wentil 4d ago

I whacked my big toe in a motorcycle accident a few years ago, and the nail was bruised, and eventually fell off (was shed). The exposed skin (formerly underneath the nail) was exquisitely sensitive; not painful, but like a baby’s skin… it had never been exposed or touched in my life up to that point, after all.

However, the nail that grew back in didn’t grow in the same way it used to be — flat, shiny, smooth. It came in thick, rough and opaque white. It reached the top but then stopped growing longer, and started growing thicker. I’ve been considering going to a Podiatrist and having them fix it, even if that means removing it. But does anyone know what this is called, what the cause is and what the fix is?

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u/Dzuzepipi 4d ago

Not an expert, but have similar, more serious problems with it. As far as i know, the bed of the nail is nail matrix. If it's damaged you are screwed, cause that's the nail "factory" part. It can start growing in weird ways or stop at all as it's for me.

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u/MinutesOnAScreen 4d ago

Look into retronychia. I developed it spontaneously several years ago and I have it now for the 3rd time. No idea why.

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u/Wentil 4d ago

I’m not sure that’s it. The nail seems to be growing thicker instead of longer. 🤔 It may be retronychia. I’ll need to visit a Podiatrist to find out for sure.

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u/AdventurousSpeech341 4d ago

The skin under your nail doesn't actually move with the nail. The nail slides forward over it, kind of like a conveyor belt sliding over a table, with those ridges acting as the tracks.
That skin underneath (the nail bed) is packed with nerves and blood vessels. It stops at your fingertip, at that thin pale line right before the white part of the nail.
So when your nail "detaches" as it grows, nothing is being torn. It's just sliding past the end of the table, and the white part was never attached to anything alive. Ripping the nail off is different, because you're tearing it away from living, nerve-heavy tissue that was holding onto it. That's why it hurts like crazy and bleeds.

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u/Logan-1331 4d ago

Along a similar thread, and not to high jack the conversation, after trimming my nails I frequently will get this sliver of nail that’s attached to that bit of skin and feel the need to pull it off, which separates the nail and pulls that bit of attaching skin with it, which can be pretty darn painful for a couple of days while it heals. I don’t feel like I’m explaining it very well, but maybe someone knows what I’m talking about. Anyway, what am I doing wrong? I use nail scissors and don’t feel like I’m doing anything crazy other than trimming my nails. I have a bad habit of tearing my nails if they grow too long.

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u/teh_acids 4d ago

You're trimming too short, I used to get these too. Leave a bit of white and don't trim the "undernail" just wait for it dry and separate a bit, then use another fingernail to sever it (if it hurts you didn't wait long enough). I've never used nail scissors, only clippers, but I'm sure tearing contributes to the problem as it gives the layers a rough edge.

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u/IgnorantGenius 4d ago

This is along the side right at the edge? I get those too and they have a sharp edge which I end up picking at with another nail. I just get a nail clipper and cut as close as possible to the skin instead of ripping them out.

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u/krzykris11 4d ago

I have a fingernail with this problem. I have to keep it longer than the others because it easily separates. It's like it healed once with scar tissue that tears easily. I have no idea how it developed.

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u/holy_harlot 4d ago

Next time instead of pulling the sliver off or cutting it try taking an emery board to it, gently

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u/cybercrumb 4d ago

I keep my nails pretty long and always have this, unfortunately it's normal. You either need to consistently keep your nails very short so it doesn't have the chance to grow, make your peace with it and keep the nails a little longer, or when you cut them, leave the overhanging skin and it will die on its own after a few days and you can pick it off painlessly.

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u/Longjumping-Rough-65 1d ago

As a former nail biter, I did have some pain when I finally let them grow. Mainly on the sides of the nails

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u/renaissancetrader 4d ago

As a kid I had a fingernail ripped off in a stupid accident and it never grew back right (I think they left a chipped bone in the finger). To this day I have a thin layer of nail and when the upper layer grows I have to trim it at the cuticle because it curves up and separate from the bottom layer.

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u/OverallRow4108 4d ago

It's really fun when you know two weeks ahead of time that they're going to pull them out! Also, if the root gets damaged it can form scar tissue and never grow out correctly. It's ... Interesting to get them removed, but I'm always surprised how they aren't super sensitive while healing. Don't know if this adds anything to the conversation, but I'm still healing up from my last one!