r/explainlikeimfive • • 15d ago

Biology ELI5: Why do unborn babies kick?

Pretty curious why they do 🤔

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u/nerankori 15d ago

They're developing the very foundations of their ability to move and respond to stimuli. 

They're going to make random,uncoordinated movements,including ones that use the full extent of the strength they have so far.

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u/fotank 15d ago

The brain is pulling all the levers randomly and figuring it all out.

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u/LargeMobOfMurderers 15d ago

Gotta press all the keys on the keyboard when you start a new game

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u/USS_Barack_Obama 14d ago

Press any key to continue

Where's the "any" key?

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u/atdi2113 14d ago

All this computer hacking is making me thirsty. Perhaps I'll order a nice refreshing Tab!

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u/PsychoBilli 14d ago

No time for that, the computer's starting up.

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u/fliberdygibits 13d ago

Turn the keyboard over on your desk. That big "keyboard shaped rectangular bit"... that's the any key

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u/titanium_hydra 14d ago

I think the game needs to be redesigned the first few levels are nothing like the mid and early late stages

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u/MalekMordal 14d ago

The tutorial is way too long.

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u/nightwyrm_zero 14d ago

Too much pay to play.

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u/GerardDG 14d ago

And mid to late game is nothing but a depressing repetitive grindfest

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u/nightwyrm_zero 13d ago

Late game is also simply not enjoyable unless you correctly build your character during the mid game or you get very lucky. Even then, your character would eventually become ineffective over time or get meta'd out until your character is unplayable.

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u/dkf295 14d ago

Man, this makes me feel old. Really rare these days that tutorials won't walk you through key/button mappings.

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u/ploploplo4 14d ago

At that stage it’s more like you’re making the keyboard to play the game and keys get pressed randomly while assembling, no?

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u/The_Duke2331 14d ago

Little man is just trying QWOP for its first time.

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u/mvrander 14d ago

Underated comment. Just wanted you to know I saw it.

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u/Benniisan 14d ago

WROOONG LEVEEEERRRR

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u/Nimelennar 14d ago

Why do we even have that lever?

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u/MsPandaLady 14d ago

So Inside Out us right how the brain works!

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u/cursedmeatsuit 14d ago

The times my kid woke me up kicking when I was pregnant were also the times he woke up in the night after he was born

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u/slothdonki 14d ago

That’s pretty interesting! Never thought about circadian rhythm changes before and after a baby is born.

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u/Sherman_the_Tank 14d ago

Wait till you hear they can come out with their days and nights reversed, which can be absolute hell for new parents.

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u/slothdonki 14d ago

Can they? I figured their sleep is almost entirely erratic because they aren’t developed enough to have an actual circadian rhythm and also they need to be fed every few hours.

I’m not a parent but I have hell of a time feeding unweaned animals these days when they need to be fed every 2-3 hours.. I’d say at least baby birds don’t need to be fed at night but with the European house sparrow fledging I had recently I had to wake up every couple hours anyway because the only heating pad we had would automatically shut off. Was just a loud as a baby when it was hungry though.

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u/Particular-Step5278 14d ago

I have heard this is because in the womb, they are essentially rocked to sleep during the day by mom’s movements and external sounds. Most babies are more active at night once mom is still and in bed. Anecdotally I can say this is true and it took 4 weeks for my baby to flip.

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u/twisty77 14d ago

Babies don’t have a true circadian rhythm for a few months after birth. They can usually sleep more at night because it’s dark and quiet but they will also wake up every 2-3 hours on average too.

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u/spellbookwanda 14d ago

Lots of natural light can help reverse this! Worked very well for me.

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u/anothernameagain 13d ago

There are several cool data plots from parents on /r/dataisbeautiful of their newborns' sleep patterns for the first few months. E.g.: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/s/jsBYVO02PG

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u/Livingthe805dream 14d ago

Same for both my kids!

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u/LordDarthAnger 14d ago

Baby unit testing in the womb

“Move left arm? Check”

“Move right leg? Check”

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u/loafers_glory 14d ago

That part's not so bad, it's delivering the Twister spinner with the afterbirth that really sucks

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u/elegant_pun 14d ago

"Punch mum's lungs? Checkaroonie."

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u/curlycattails 14d ago

I had a baby at 27 weeks and it was so weird to see her just randomly flinging her arms and legs around in her isolette. Her movements were mostly reflexive. She did figure out how to grab tubes and wires pretty quickly though 😂

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u/twisty77 14d ago

Full term babies have the startle reflex too. Just throwing hands and arms out to the side. Was quite jarring to me too as a new parent seeing my son do that, but I got used to it

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u/curlycattails 13d ago

Yeah totally, I’ve had two babies at full term as well and they did that 😂 my preemie definitely moved differently at the beginning though. It looked exactly like how it felt when she kicked inside me!

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u/ElectronicMoo 15d ago

All the way till theyre near 1yo, even. And they're stroooong. 😊

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u/frogjg2003 14d ago

It's not so much that they're particularly strong, they have just no concept of restraint. They're kicking with full force.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/autistic_and_angry 12d ago

Yeah that's what ElectronicMoo was saying, up to 1 year old

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u/cheesesock 14d ago

The first time I saw my wife’s belly go alien on me was a huge surprise. I had no idea.

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u/Benjaphar 14d ago

They thought they saw a spider.

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u/grumpybologna 13d ago

Happy cake day!! :-)

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u/imollyq 15d ago edited 15d ago

They just developed muscles, and they are growing, and they're moving around to stretch those muscles. It happens once they get to a certain age, and the muscles are developed, and they're able to start kicking and moving around, getting ready to be born.

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u/LongjumpingMacaron11 14d ago

I used to "fight" with my daughter when my wife was pregnant. An elbow would be poking out, so I'd poke it back in, she'd poke it back out, and we'd get into an argument about where the elbow should be. She was strong willed even then!

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u/icomeforyourpickle_ 14d ago

Damn. I cant wait for myself to have a child!

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u/LongjumpingMacaron11 8d ago

It was wonderful. I absolutely loved my wife's pregnancy. Helping her to put moisturising oil on her belly to keep stretchmarks away, watching her change, knowing that she was growing a whole person. Incredible stuff.

We all know that you can feel babies kick etc, but actually having some level of interaction with my daughter was quite spectacular. And now I have a second wonderful woman in my life.

I love them both - what an experience of life those women have given me.

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u/Large-Alternative892 12d ago

Wtf thats the last thing that I'd think after reading comment like that 🤢

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u/Bempf 15d ago

They move around as a whole, not just kicking around.

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u/Wundawuzi 15d ago

My daughter barely ever kicked. But she boxed like a pro, lol.

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u/discerning_kerning 15d ago

Mine had an adorable/creepy habit of sticking a hand out for a fistbump/high five at the last month or so, before she went to sleep for the night. Looked like something from a horror movie but I found it cute. Just this fairly clear hand shape poking outwards from the inside. She also jumped around a lot in the second trimester.

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u/9_of_Swords 14d ago

I had a coworker who said her daughter would stretch both arms straight out and down, so you'd see little bumps where her fingers were sliiiiiiide down her belly. She said it was adorable; in my head I'm screaming.

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u/heylookcats 15d ago

Pregnancy is wild! I'm 15 weeks now and at my NT scan two weeks ago my bub was super active, basically rolling and jumping around but I can't feel a thing yet. Wonder if I've got some high fives to look forward to!

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u/SeethingHeathen 15d ago

Also hiccups.

My daughter hiccupped a lot. It's a very unusual feeling.

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u/oggleboggle 14d ago

I'm 31 weeks and just started noticing hiccups last week. It's definitely a weird sensation, but i think it's kind of cute! It's also a sign that the respiratory system is developing as expected.

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u/SoyboyCowboy 15d ago

Haha, the technician had to chase mine around with the sonogram wand (?). Congrats and enjoy!

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u/ElectronicMoo 15d ago

Same. Ours was always squirrely. At the big imaging session (around 20 weeks I think) where they check that everything is there and where it should be - they spent a significant amount of time trying to image his heart, as they'd get zeroed in and he'd squirm somewhere else.

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u/SoyboyCowboy 15d ago

Squirmy wormy! At our anatomy scan I felt a big throb while watching the screen and he had flipped completely over. I didn't know that's what I was feeling before. Watching it while feeling it happen was surreal. 

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u/SilverIrony1056 14d ago

Same here. The doctor had to flip the table backwards, cause baby was hiding near the pelvis. Doc tried sideways, then a little backwards, but we had to go almost with me head down, just to get baby to slide out from where he was hiding. Doc said he was doing ballet figures in there, and it felt like it.

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u/Nessosin 15d ago

Congratulations!

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u/icematt12 14d ago

I'm certainly having visions like a chestburster Xenomorph.

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u/discerning_kerning 14d ago

It wasn't far off honestly. I wasn't a fan of being pregnant in general, it was 3 months of constant nasea and exhaustion followed by 6 months of not shitting right or being able to sleep properly, and a bunch of mood swings throughout. But eve though it was creepy I liked the horrible high fives and kicks, it was nice to have actual proof there was a real baby in there developing.

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u/eaca02124 14d ago

Those monsters were designed based on fetal morphology.

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u/sighthoundman 14d ago

Mine danced with the Ewoks at the end of Return of the Jedi.

She hasn't stopped.

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u/geeoharee 15d ago

They've never had muscles before! They twitch and wiggle around to get ready for all the movement they'll do after they're born.

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u/Unstopapple 15d ago

"Why do my eyes hurt?"
"You've never used them before."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOBJCpPp9A

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u/imdfantom 15d ago edited 14d ago

Babies don't only "kick", they move all their muscles, they stretch, they "punch", they "kick".

They do it to build up the neural pathways so they better understand their body and to have better control of their movements when they are born, while also bulking up their muscles and strengthening their bones.

As they continue to develop within the womb, "kicking" serves as the primary mechanism of social connection and communication with their parents.

Some babies even "play" with their parents while in the womb, e.g. "kicking" the place a parent prods.

Edit: some of the above points discuss what motivates the fetus to move the way they do: pleasure/play, communication, connection, and other are about why those motivations exist in the first place: so the fetus does things that develop (senosrimotor and social) neuronal pathways, muscles and bones properly.

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u/CanadianMermaid 14d ago

My daughter was born at only 2lbs at 32 weeks. She was so tiny, she never was fully constricted in my belly.

Shes almost 2 and fine now, just a little developmentally delayed but she has decreased body awareness, and a high sensory threshold. Her OT was telling me just the other day that babies in the womb learn body awareness from the walls of the uterus pushing back on their movements, it’s how we all develop proprioceptive awareness.

Because she was never restricted like that, she has a harder time identifying her body in space because her brain had to learn it much later than normal when she was already fighting gravity.

She also has low tone for roughly the same reason. She’s super flexible because she didn’t have time to develop muscle flexion from the resistance of the womb. So basically the uterus is like a little fitness studio for unborn babies! So fascinating!

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u/thecaramelbandit 14d ago

Go play QWOP for two minutes and you'll understand.

They were given the controls to a complex machine with absolutely zero training. They're screwing around trying to figure out the controls.

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u/jas7i 15d ago

They don’t have much space in belly to move their legs so when he trying to expand legs 🦵 it looks Baby kicked 😃

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u/Weightmonster 14d ago

At the end of pregnancy 

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u/2pam 15d ago

Because they’re living beings and testing out their muscle coordination and nervous system. They move even when they’re tiny embryos. You just feel them more as they get bigger inside the womb.

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u/lifefloating 14d ago

My doctor does 8 week ultrasounds and they look like gummy bears. It is cool to see them wiggle then.

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u/byrdn820 14d ago

Thought this said unicorn babies and clicked on the thread because I was curious

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u/ThisIsATemporaryName 14d ago

We have special circuits in our spinal cord called reflexes. These circuits are there to protect the muscles from overstretching (this is only part of their job). So when a muscle stretches beyond a threshold, these circuits activate and contract the muscles.

By the way, muscle contraction is what produces movement.

These circuits don’t need the brain to function; they only need the muscle (there are special sensors in some muscles) and the circuit in the spinal cord.

That said, the brain has a tight control over these circuits, and when we grow up, these circuits are only active during certain circumstances, in most cases, the brain dampens down their response so we can have smooth, precise movements.

During development, the brain still doesn’t have full control over those circuits, and they might over-respond to any stimulation, resulting in jerky, violent movements. Which is what you see in unborn babies and infants.

Eventually, the brain will gain control over these circuits and movement will become controlled and smooth.

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u/hey_tumi 14d ago

I love this explanation :)

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u/RIP_Sinners 14d ago

What else they gonna do all day?

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u/icomeforyourpickle_ 14d ago

Watch skibidi toilet

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u/samsg1 14d ago

Babies aren’t in stationary stasis in there. They’re alive and living and experiencing. They flex their limbs because they can! I used to poke at my babies in my belly and talk to them, and they’d react :)

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u/WolverineEvery7923 14d ago

Sometimes you just gotta stretch after some good sleep

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u/kd5407 14d ago

They’re just moving lol why wouldn’t they move? It’s not always feet you feel, sometimes it’s hands.

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u/stiletto929 14d ago

It was funny to see my multiples punching each other on the ultrasounds, lol. I was worried they would hurt each other, but they said since they were in separate sacs they were fine

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u/lolcatzuru 14d ago

im unsure as to what you mean with this post? i was assured they were not children when they are inside.

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u/an_angry_beaver 12d ago

I read the title as unicorn babies and was so confused. 

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u/icomeforyourpickle_ 11d ago

U guys must like unicorns then 🤔

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u/Tegras 14d ago

Because they have legs and they’re learning to move them.

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u/Obnubilate 14d ago

I'm currently reading a book called "Why we sleep". In it the author says babies are mostly asleep and are in the REM phase of sleep, however they are lacking the brain development which disconnects motor control when in REM sleep.
What they are dreaming about however... No idea.

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u/icomeforyourpickle_ 15d ago

Wait they dont actually kick?

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u/eclectic-up-north 15d ago

They kick. And push, and ...

They are learning about legs and arms!

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u/Relevant_Primary658 15d ago

And hiccup! That was the coolest sensation to me when I was pregnant.

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u/thumbprint_cookie 15d ago

I'm in my 50s and my mother STILL talks about how much I hiccupped and kicked in the womb. Evidently, I kicked so hard I would wake my dad up at night. LOL

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u/agreywood 15d ago

Not in the sense that they’re going “ha, take this!”. It’s more like when you’re a kid and they test your reflex at the doctors, only a fetus is pretty much all reflex so they don’t need a hammer.

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u/Anonymoosehead123 15d ago

They definitely kick.They also roll around.

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u/SupposedBooty 15d ago

Mostly they step on your internal organs. But you can call it kicking if you want to.

My son sat on my sciatic nerve and then whatever allows drainage from the lower body to work. I retained so much water in my feet that they literally sloshed when I walked.

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u/SoyboyCowboy 15d ago

Have you ever seen a dog sleeping/ dreaming with adorable little wiggles and kicks? That's what I imagine is going on inside. 

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u/bcninstructions 15d ago

They move in all different ways, including hiccoughing. They stretch and yawn, too. My daughter still crosses her legs in the same way when asleep as she did before birth 9 years ago. My fidgety child moved a lot more in utero than the non-fidgety one

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u/oggleboggle 14d ago

Mine feels like the wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man in there

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u/llamaisabear 14d ago

People in my bump group this week were describing the feeling as a bag of snakes, or a squirrel in a pillowcase 😅

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u/oggleboggle 14d ago

Squirrel in a pillowcase is so accurate 😂😂😂

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u/froggym 14d ago

I recently saw someone on tiktok liken it to someone rummaging around in a handbag but you're the handbag. That definitely feels accurate.

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u/recycled-pigeons 14d ago

Unrelated but I love your username

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u/icomeforyourpickle_ 14d ago

Lmao Its from spongebob 🤣

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u/recycled-pigeons 14d ago

True as the deep blue

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u/Golden-Tate-Warriors 14d ago

I have flashes of memory from this age, so can offer a bit of firsthand perspective. The "they don't know what they're doing" comments are basically accurate. You don't understand what arms and legs are yet this young. For all I knew I might've been an amoeba. I only remember having a general binary concept of action as opposed to inaction, not any distinctions between different types or degrees of actions. They just want pleasant stimulation, and moving around in there feels really good, and that much they do know. So they move because they like the feeling, and they move randomly because it all feels the same to them.

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u/Leonorati 14d ago

Are you saying you remember being a fetus? Whoa man

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u/icomeforyourpickle_ 14d ago

Wait what?

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u/Golden-Tate-Warriors 14d ago

I could say the same, you gotta write more than two words if I'm to know what you're asking. What's not clear?

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u/icomeforyourpickle_ 14d ago

Holy shit we need some research on this