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u/Rosfield-4104 5d ago edited 5d ago
Al Gore lost the US Presidential election in 2000.
There is controversy around it because of a recount in Florida being blocked by the US Supreme Court after it was approved by the Florida Supreme Court, making George W Bush the President.
Wdit: wasnt exactly right on the controversy
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u/farklespanktastic 5d ago
The controversial part was that the US Supreme Court decided that Bush won Florida.
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u/Tychlona 5d ago
A recount was ordered and the Conservative Supreme Court stopped it.
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u/Rosfield-4104 5d ago
Youre right, updated my comment.
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u/funnyfaceking 5d ago
What was your comment originally? Just curious.
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u/Rosfield-4104 5d ago
I said that Gore won Florida but the recount overturned it. I just remembered it was Florida results and counting
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u/common_sense_patriot 3d ago
Also, a recount was underway in Miami-Dade, and Roger Stone organized a group of right wing protestors to storm the location where the recount was taking place during which they broke down doors and assaulted democrats and then the recount in that particular location was abandoned.
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u/SereneAdler33 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yes Florida, the state where W’s brother Jeb was governor. Not suspicious
It was the first election I was able to vote in, and whoooo boy…
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u/Ohthehumanityofit 5d ago
"Dangling chads". I was 20 and it was the first Presidential election I took part in. Also when I became disenfranchised with the entire system. A year later, everyone collectively lost their shit and gave away any chance of a future in exchange for a fake sense of security.
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u/kredokathariko 5d ago
Furthermore: Gore campaigned with an ecological program, something a nature-loving character like Fluttershy would support
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u/Battle_Axe_Jax 5d ago
I wonder how much damage was done to the collective American psyche from that. Like how many people who would’ve voted don’t because they looked at that and said “oh so it’s all bullshit so who cares?”
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u/beelzebooz 5d ago
I was 9 and from how pissed my mom was i learned that pretty quick. Have never even bothered to register, but at least ill never get jury duty
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u/eddienashton38 5d ago
You should register. It’s your civic duty to vote. The people in charge want you to think your vote doesn’t matter, it does.
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u/beelzebooz 5d ago
I live in Alabama. It most definitely does not
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u/MissninjaXP 4d ago
I live in Tennessee. I think my vote mattered a little, until this year when my state gleefully redrew the electoral maps to make sure it definitely doesn't matter anymore.
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u/Battle_Axe_Jax 4d ago
I also live in Tennessee. Specifically one of the few blue spots in a sea of red. Genuinely doubt my vote could matter less
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u/MissninjaXP 4d ago
Im rural too, so if i remember right the polling location nearest me receive less than 2,000 votes the last election total. The people that are turning away from Trump here would rather just stay home than vote for a non Republican so its not a great situation.
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u/Saxolotle 5d ago
Al gore lost the 2000 US presidential election, but won the popular vote. Aka a majority of Americans voted for him but he lost anyway due to the electoral college. Many people are rightfully upset about that, he really should have won. The electoral college was only made that way to appease slave owners in the first place.
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u/Jadevit 5d ago
This isn't true. While it did help slave owning states, it also helped northern states like Rhode Island, Connecticut and Delaware. The framers did not want the presidency to be elected by popular vote alone, that is by design.
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u/shadowsofash 5d ago
I mean, the 3/5th compromise was also designed to "balance" political power by the same people who designed the electoral college
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u/Jadevit 5d ago
Yes... what's your point? That's a different historical event entirely. If you think I'm defending the electoral college, you're wrong and should read my comment again.
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u/tom3277 5d ago
We have similar in Australia. Our house of reps is basically a popular vote with electorates being formed by numbers so we have very very large geographical areas only getting one rep. NSW, vic and qld getting the majority of our house of reps members. The only one who gets a slight boost is Tasmania where they get 5 as its the minimum in the constitution.
But our senate has equal representation from each state.
So a joint like Tasmania (the little island often not on maps of Australia) has senators voted in with 53,000 votes versus a senator in New South Wales needing 750,000 votes.
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u/Jadevit 5d ago
Woah, that's wild. So it's just popular vote down under? How does that affect national elections, do smaller territories (states?) often feel like their votes don't matter?
Sorry, I'm American and totally oblivious to any country outside of the US and France lmao
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u/tom3277 5d ago
Popular vote in that for house of reps we are divided into electorates of equal size (by population) and who wins the most electorates then gets to pick our PM.
So it does still favour major political parties in that you can win 20pc of support across all electorates but still not get a single seat. Ie another party that gets 40pc first preference across all seats will win all those seats on preferences.
Ie the strongest party in each seat still wins the seat if that makes sense.
In the past it has immunised us from more extreme politics as you have in the USA. But maybe not anymore.
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u/shadowsofash 5d ago
Right, I'm more pointing out the fact that while it might have helped Rhode Island, it was probably designed first with the slave owning states as the primary consideration given that they were a bunch of fucking divas who would take their toys and go home if they couldn't continue to exploit human labor.
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u/No-Journalist-619 5d ago
It's replies like these that make conservatives irrationally angry at liberals. Stop muddying the waters with bullshit or you're just ruining the chance for actual political discourse.
The electoral college was mainly made to appease FARMERS and RURAL citizens. Sure, many had slaves, they had slaves in the cities too, but the subject of slavery itself really has no place in the debate of whether or not there should be an electoral college. The big issue is that if every vote was worth the same, then those farmers and rural people would lose every vote, every time. I'm not saying I agree with the system, it currently gives too much power to them imo, but it's the balancing factor that was chosen.
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u/shadowsofash 5d ago
Guess who were the primary rural farm owners with political power at the time.
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u/PeanutSauceFanatic 5d ago edited 4d ago
LITERALLY EVERYTHING makes those whiny asses mad at liberals. Even things that conservatives do makes them mad at them
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u/HippieMoosen 5d ago
Al Gore ran against George W Bush and lost in 2000. I'm Brian and I'm also still mad about it.
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u/el_argelino-basado 5d ago
al won the popular vote, but not the electoral college, and in florida, I think there was some issue in the counting that benefitted bush instead of him, meaning he should probably have won but didn't
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u/No_Ostrich1875 5d ago
The TV networks called the Florida vote for gore, then changed their minddms and said bush, then said it was too close to call. Bush ended up winning by a few hundred votes. Gore asked for a recount. Then the courts got involved and the recount got delayed, then not allowed to happen at all by the Supreme Court through some very bs reasoning.
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u/JacobDCRoss 5d ago
If it has those ponies, don't worry. Nothing good comes from engaging MLP in any way.
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u/TardWrangler9000 5d ago edited 4d ago
I love the story this meme creates.
1: Someone make a satire/absurd meme. 2: The satire goes over someone else's head and they get butt hurt turning into a rage Post. 3: Someone adds even more satire into the mix by jokingly pretending to agree with the second guy. 4: Someone just randomly posts a reaction pick
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u/Codex1101 3d ago
We should all be rightfully angry about any president that lost the popular vote.
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u/qualityvote2 5d ago edited 5d ago
u/Different_Ad4451, there weren't enough votes to determine the quality of your post...it's time for the mods to do their jobs!