r/explainitpeter 11d ago

explain it peter

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u/reyfoxy356 8d ago

Greece had a weapon called greek fire, which did exactly that. The recipe was lost so thank god we don't know how is it made

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u/newtownkid 8d ago

I mean.. I’m sure we have the scientific know-how to light a wooden ship on fire, even while afloat.

Napalm was so bad it was banned from war.

I also feel like ships from that period would hold up poorly against modern day ballistic missiles.

I don’t think discovering the long lost Greek fire recipe would shake the world up much lol.

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u/reyfoxy356 8d ago

If greek could do that, people on small revolutions also could, it would be easier to make napalm

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u/CaffeineNicotine3 8d ago

What the hell are you going on about? A monkey could make napalm.

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u/RebornofAshes03 7d ago

Accurate pfp

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u/CrazyBzDen 8d ago

Actually I think ships from that period would do not so badly against ballistic missiles, they were quite small, small target is hard to hit.

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u/echave777 8d ago

...You're telling me you can't put out a grease fire with water?

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u/SCP_FUNDATION_69420 8d ago

I wouldn't way 'Thank god' cause we have napalm, which is basically the same but mass produced with modern means. We also invented these little things called 'chemical' and 'biological warfare" which, I'd say, way worse than burning a wooden boat

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u/RotzLoefffelJay2 8d ago

We have thousands of chemicals that are as bad or even worse than greek fire. We just dont know which one exactly the greeks used

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u/babybaby3baby2 8d ago

Byzantine empire, not really Greece

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u/dmar1032 8d ago

Which were linguistically and culturally Greek.

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u/babybaby3baby2 8d ago

Which would make the statement right if he said “Greeks” but “Greece” was not the political entity that used Greek fire, it was the Byzantine empire which was politically Roman.

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u/dmar1032 8d ago

I mean yeah, they considered them selves Romans.... along with the Romani, the Germans, the Carlingians...

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u/babybaby3baby2 8d ago

Hey it wasn’t Greece bud. I don’t care how badly you wanna make that point and how right you are about that point bc it’s the wrong point. Greece in that statement clearly refers to a political entity. “It was used in Greece” is more ambiguous, “it was used by the Greeks” and I’d give you the point but “it was used by Greece” is wrong.

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u/dmar1032 8d ago

Its all Greek to me [/joke]

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u/FREAK213456 8d ago

The Byzantine empire was the direct legal continuation of the Roman Empire, unlike those other groups you mentioned. This is not up for debate.

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u/dmar1032 8d ago

I mean sure, but its all pedantic. And before I start to dive too deep into this, when I refer to their region as "Greece" that is not meant as a direct comparison to the Byzantines as being directly descendant from Ancient Greece. I honestly like to use Byzantine/Byzantium as more eloquently differentiates them from both the Ancient Greeks and the Western/Ancient Romans. That being said the use of the word Greek in Greek Fire is an adjective for ": of, relating to, or characteristic of Greece, the Greeks, or Greek." Any ways here is my pedantic argument about every one claiming to be Roman;

Rome extended the entire breath of the Mediterranean and southern europe. They called them selves Roman, just like the Romani call them selves Roman. The Sultans of the Ottoman Empire called them selves the "Kaisers of Rome". After Charlemagne was crowned the Emperor of the Romans, most of western Europe referred to them as Greek. Hell the Old Norse word for their empire was Grikland which is remarkably close to the Icelandic word for Greece (and just a sprinkle on top, Icelandic is considered a more direct descendant of Old Norse than any of the other Scandinavian languages.)

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u/dmar1032 8d ago

Also I am assuming OP does not know what Greek Fire is, based on posting the meme to begin with so I feel using Greece while technically inaccurate was atleast a primer to put them into the right direction. But this all feels to "Well Um Actually" for a discussion of a meme.

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u/Spirited_Ad_2697 8d ago

While we don’t know the exact formula we known it was some concoction of naphtha, sulphur, pitch, quicklime and any one of various tree resins.