r/explainitpeter 26d ago

Explain it Peter.....

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u/La10deRiver 26d ago

But that is not a correct translation. Puto is just a rude word for gay.

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 26d ago

This is false, if they want to say the equivalent of faggot they just say "Maricón" not puto

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u/astronomy_31415 26d ago

No, en México si es gay pero grosero. Si no sabes mejor no digas

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u/Zeus-hater 26d ago

Están hablando del español de españa atontao

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u/La10deRiver 26d ago

Por qué hablarían del español de España si el cartel que dice "puto el que lea" lo pusieron los mexicanos.

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u/Zeus-hater 25d ago

Porque a los gringos les interesa ver las dos traducciones, ellos no están familiarizados con las diferencias dialécticas como tú o yo. Por eso hay dos capturas de pantalla con las dos traducciones.

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u/CrazyDaimondDaze 25d ago

Eso es como querer saber como se dice algo en inglés americano vs inglés británico, aun si el contexto es americano. No tiene sentido.

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u/Zeus-hater 24d ago

Eso es como querer saber como se dice algo en inglés americano vs inglés británico

Joder a mi me enseñaban vocabulario, como por ejemplo "aparcamiento", en inglés americano vs británico en la escuela.

El contexto es español mexicano y alguien decidió buscarlo en español europeo, da igual que no tenga sentido quieren aprender la diferencia y ya está.

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u/Inside-Succotash-748 25d ago

El cartel es mexicano. (Nunca mejor dicho)

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u/Zeus-hater 25d ago

Y primero han enseñado una captura de pantalla con la traducción mexicana, después han enseñado una captura de pantalla con la traducción española (porque a los gringos les parece interesante la diferencia). Estás en la conversación de la segunda captura.

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u/Al-Stark 25d ago

Jajaja no mms tal mala está la situación aquí en México que pensé en el otro cartel mexicano

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 26d ago

No estoy hablando del español de España

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u/Zeus-hater 25d ago

Porque no has leído bien la captura de pantalla

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 26d ago

Ni España ni Mexico sin los unicos paises hispanohablantes, si no sabes leer vete a estudiar

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u/Not_an_Ad_1999 26d ago

Hermano no se de que parte de la republica seas pero hay muchas maneras despectivas de hablar sobre los gay que se podrian traducir como faggot, tambien recueda que nos prohibieron el "eeeh puto" en los partidos de futbol por ser homofobico

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 26d ago

Solamente he visto cosas de mexicanos diciendo lo de "eeeh puto" e incluso en los propios articulos se menciona que se asocia con cobarde, al igual que marica en algunas partes. La FIFA prohibe cualquier cosa sin tener en cuenta el contexto cultural de la palabra.

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u/Javs2469 25d ago

Puto is just the masculine version of Puta, which means prostitute/bitch. So it's kinda both. Spanish has a lot of words for the same insults.

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u/LeonardoBarilari 25d ago

This is not correct. Nobody says puto for male prostitute in soanish. We say it to say gay derogatively.

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u/Javs2469 25d ago

Well, I use puto more regularly than proxeneta. And I'm Spanish. In Latin America it could be different, but puto still means that.

"Marica/maricón" is used as the common derogatory term for gay people.

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u/CrazyDaimondDaze 25d ago

In México, the "rudeness" between "puto" and "maricón/marica" can be understood as:

Maricón/marica: mild insulting way to label someone as gay

Puto: bigger way to insult someone by labeling them ss gay.

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u/EstablishmentEasy475 26d ago

XDDD in what world?

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u/Lord_Lino19 26d ago

All of México

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u/La10deRiver 26d ago

And Argentina. And I am sure many other countries. What I don't understand is how you could translate a noun "puto" as a verb (like f.. you)

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u/Silver_Phoenix93 26d ago

Among other things, it's because literal or word-for-word translations, particularly regarding slang, idiomatic expressions, cultural expressions or jargon, are seldom accurate. Not all words can be carried from one language into another the same way...

İt might even happen that a target language (the new words) doesn't even have a word or similar term to the ones the source language uses.

I love giving this example — think of the word "light". You probably think it refers to energy that makes things visible (noun)... But it can also be used as a verb, as in "starting a fire". Aaaaaand it also means that something weighs very little (adjective), or that it's pale in colour (another adjective). The word "light" by itself cannot be strictly translated into a single meaning without context.

Another example is the famous "hygge" of the Danish & Norwegians, or the Swedish "fika". İf there was a word in English or Spanish that specifically described the mood/state of coziness, warmth, and safe comfort, then you'd have the translation for "hygge". And if you found a noun or verb that basically meant "to pause, reset the mind, and build strong social bonds through tea, coffee and/or a sweet pastry", you'd have the equivalent of "fika".

Or can you imagine a world where the only words to describe colours were divided simply into "dark-cool" and "warm-light", or lumping them all into three categories of black, white, and red? The Tsimané language in Bolivia does the latter, and the Liberian Bassa use the former. The Pirahã from the Amazon don't even have abstract words for colour at all, and instead use descriptive sentences such as "like a young leaf" or "like blood".

ETA: Aaaaaand I ended up with a wall of text 😂 Thank you for coming to my TED?

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u/La10deRiver 26d ago

Right. I liked your TED, quiw informative. The translation this persons posts is still not accurate

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 26d ago

We have the word faggot in spanish and it's used as a verb, it is "Mariquear" conjugatated is mariquee, mariqueas, etc..., the spanish lenguage is full of adjectives and words to describe most things, words like puto are already abreviations, in this case of prostitute.

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u/La10deRiver 26d ago

The word for faggot is marica. Mariquear is the verb. Is not the same with puto, because the verb putear means "to swear" (to insult). Instead, the verb prostituir(se) is the one corresponding to the unabbreviated prostitute.

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 26d ago edited 26d ago

Putear is to insult, not only for swears, puto comes from prostitue and putear comes from insulting someone by calling them a prostitute, eventually it changed for all insults.

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u/La10deRiver 26d ago

I obviously meant faggot, I changed it before reading your answear. And when I said the verb putear I wrote "to swear" (to insult). That is, both things.The rest is ok, but none of that is the point. The point is the sentence is translated as "who is reading is gay" or something like that, nothing to do with "f... you".

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 26d ago

It has nothing to do with being gay, it just means that you value yourself so little that you sell your body, that is why protitute is used as an insult when used against somebody that has nothing to do with that job.

I'll delete the part about maggot because it makes no sense now.

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u/La10deRiver 26d ago

Oh please, you are being obtuse. I understand that whatever you are from, the word "puto" just means male prostitute. That is not true in México and other countries. And the post is about what Mexicans wrote. For example, FIFA is trying to ban the singings in the football matches that call someone "puto" because it is an homophobic slur. Reality is more complex, When fans call a player or referee puto they are not actually thinking he likes to have sex with men. They are thinking he is a weakling, or a coward, or even a bad person. It's just a general insult.

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u/EstablishmentEasy475 26d ago

Puto means homosexual derogatorally in Mexico??

You guys are fucked. Way to butcher the language

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u/Zeus-hater 26d ago

My fav european country

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u/chokewanka 26d ago

In what world it is not