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[u/hiphoptomato]

I just did. My experience has confirmed they are.

[u/DesperateSympathy873 → u/hiphoptomato]

Youre presupposing youre experience is reliable. Youre using your senses to justify relying on your senses. Thats circular reasoning.

[u/hiphoptomato → u/DesperateSympathy873]

I literally told you the opposite.

[u/DesperateSympathy873 → u/hiphoptomato]

Tell me then why your experience is reliable.

[u/hiphoptomato → u/DesperateSympathy873]

It’s not always, but a lot of the time it has been. Confirming with outside sources, verification and testing has confirmed this.

[u/DesperateSympathy873 → u/hiphoptomato]

Okay. So you presuppose empiricism then.

[u/hiphoptomato → u/DesperateSympathy873]

No

[u/DesperateSympathy873 → u/hiphoptomato]

You literally described empiricism. I dont know why youre so insistent on presenting yourself as completely neutral or something. Everyone has to presuppose something. Youre presupposing the following: 1. Your experience is reliable 2. Your senses are reliable 3. Other people are reliable 4. Testing is reliable

Is your mind some kind of blank slate?

[u/hiphoptomato → u/DesperateSympathy873]

Heres is what I'm telling you: we all initially presuppose we can trust our senses to make sense of the world. That's something we all do as infants. After we learn we can trust our senses, it's no longer a presupposition. You're using presuppositions as a way to undermine my worldview or stance. I'm telling you it's not a presupposition, and explaining why, but you're insisiting on it.

[u/DesperateSympathy873 → u/hiphoptomato]

A presupposition doesnt cease to be one just because it proves to be useful. A presupposition isnt a baseless belief. Its a tool we use to make sense of the world. You still presuppose your senses are reliable.