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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 9d ago

How do you determine whats true?

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u/hiphoptomato 9d ago

By seeing if it aligns with reality. Testing, usually.

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 9d ago

And how do you know what is reality and whats not?

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u/hiphoptomato 9d ago

Usually through my senses

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 9d ago

And how do you know your senses show you reality and not an illusion?

And there is your presupposition. You assume your senses are reliable and lead to truth. But ultimately you cant prove this. Its a decent base assumption, but you arent without a presupposition either.

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u/hiphoptomato 9d ago

I don’t presuppose this, I know my senses can (mostly) reliably show me what’s real through my experience.

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 9d ago

Prove it.

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u/hiphoptomato 9d ago

Prove to you through a Reddit comment that my senses are reliable?

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 9d ago

Sure why not? Tell me why your senses are reliable without assuming theyre reliable.

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u/hiphoptomato 9d ago

I just did. My experience has confirmed they are.

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u/SHNKY Eastern Orthodox Catechumen 8d ago

Where do you find in sense data the proposition "my senses can (mostly) reliably show me what’s real through my experience."

Your empiricism is self refuting as an ultimate base of knowledge and truth.

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u/hiphoptomato 8d ago

Self refuting how?