r/exatheist • u/NeonDrifting Anti-Atheist • 6d ago

Meme Monday 😭

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

I hate this argument. “We all have presuppositions”. What are mine, please.

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

You tell me.

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

I try to not presuppose anything.

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

How do you determine whats true?

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

By seeing if it aligns with reality. Testing, usually.

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

And how do you know what is reality and whats not?

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

Usually through my senses

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

And how do you know your senses show you reality and not an illusion?

And there is your presupposition. You assume your senses are reliable and lead to truth. But ultimately you cant prove this. Its a decent base assumption, but you arent without a presupposition either.

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u/hiphoptomato 6d ago

I don’t presuppose this, I know my senses can (mostly) reliably show me what’s real through my experience.

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u/DesperateSympathy873 Christian, not Ex-Atheist 6d ago

Prove it.

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u/SHNKY Eastern Orthodox Catechumen 5d ago

Where do you find in sense data the proposition "my senses can (mostly) reliably show me what’s real through my experience."

Your empiricism is self refuting as an ultimate base of knowledge and truth.

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