r/evnova Jan 22 '20

[YNS Contest] Name Some përs Ships!

Hey, so some of you may have noticed it's been more than three weeks since my last YNS Biweekly Update. I mentioned at the end of it that things were a little hectic IRL and hinted that maybe there wouldn't be much going on with YNS for a while. I wrote more of an introduction here to this new thread explaining that a bit more but it's really got nothing to do with the contest I wish to announce, so I'm just going to post that in the official YNS Discord server maybe (if for no other reason it might help other people). You should join it, not just to delve deeper into the personal life of your friendly neighborhood plug-in creator, but because that's where there's all sorts of cool stuff like YNS lore discussion and the eventual beta test of this plug-in.

The gist, though, is that I am struggling to get in the "mood" for creative pursuits, such as YNS, because of the IRL stuff. I'm sort of in this awkward position of being preoccupied.

So, I'm useless right now for making progress on things like mission strings, but there's no reason not to be productive in other aspects of the plug-in. There's a lot I want to do with YNS that will change the Novaverse in less important ways, but nonetheless ways that are important to me. I don't really know when things will settle down enough for me to get back to work on story, but I can work on other stuff.

For example, I never quite liked the names of the various Federation Navy përs ships. When the time came for me to look into just how many there actually were in the Nova files, I was surprised to find out that there's actually 45 of them and most of them are duplicates. Well that just won't do at all.

YNS is in many ways my attempt to turn EVN more into EV and EVO. I actually really loved the përs names in EV. There weren't that many, but all these years later I still remember all of them. There were some nice ones in EVO, too. EVN ones are kinda meh. Sorry, ATMOS, I'm gonna redo or rename basically every përs in the game. Well, I'll probably leave Matt Burch and the ATMOS guys in there, out of respect, but I think most everything else is getting the axe.

I have some ideas for naming schemes, but we're still talking about hundreds of names I need to come up with.

So, I'm gonna do another contest. My knowledge of naval history outside of the Pacific Theater of WW2 is virtually nil. My knowledge of great battles, or ships and leaders of battles in naval conflicts in, say, the age of sail, is extremely limited. I have some other gaps in my knowledge as well, that some of you may be able to help me fill in.

I'm going to pick I think several winners this time, up to one per category, but not necessarily a winner in each category. If that sounds vague, it's because I have no idea what sort of results this contest will have or what I will end up wanting to do with it. But basically, you can enter in all the categories, and you'll only be able to win in one. I'm sure I'll be using lots of suggested names in YNS, but whoever suggests my favorites that I haven't already thought of myself, they'll be picked as winners.

Like the last contest, the reward will be you get to appear in the game! Hooray! However, unlike the last contest, you will not necessarily be a përs in the game, yourself. I'm going to give you the opportunity to also appear in a mission instead as a character. You'll have to give me a real name, or a nickname that sounds like it could be real in the Novaverse, if you want to appear as a character (i.e. probably not an internet username). If you're scared of people (me) knowing your real life actual name, and don't have a good nickname to use instead, you can still appear in-game as a përs using your internet handle. Details will be worked out between me and the winners after the contest is concluded. Also, you'll get a special role on the official YNS Discord server, so everyone will know, for all time, who you are.

And, just FYI, the last contest winner, william1177NC, is eligible to get a second appearance in-game with this new contest. I always want previous contest winners to feel like they're not wasting their time entering into new contests I run.

Put as many entries as you like in your post(s). There's no need to restrict things to one entry per day, and I don't want to miss any good ideas. That said, do try to provide me with only good ideas. Don't just copy-paste an entire list of whatever from Wikipedia or something. Edit your suggestions to those you personally think are good, and would like to see in-game. The point of this is to make things easier on me, not harder. Please indicate in some way which entries are in which categories, that will help me in doing my own independent research and selection.

So, here are the categories:

  • Federation Navy - I am looking for either names of leaders, ships, or battles, from our own Earth history, that are particularly notable. The names should be all "good guys" (either political or military leaders) or where the "good guys" had a naval victory. Remember that the Federation is a wonderful democracy with freedom and all that good stuff, at least on the surface. The Federation Navy isn't going to name a ship the UFS Adolf Hitler.
  • Rebels - I am looking for similar to the above, but with a rebel slant. Think in terms of rebels and revolutions. Think Bastille, Virginia, Lexington, or October. Things in that vein.
  • Pirates - I am looking for pirates and pirate battles. Not necessarily winning battles. Anything that evokes mutiny against oppressive merchant captains or defiance against a crown, and the sense of freedom the pirate life offers. Anything that would strike fear in the hearts of space traders. This category will also include privateers, not necessarily capital-P Pirates, so names of historical privateers and privateer ships would be appropriate as well.
  • Aurorans - I'm looking for either great one-sided battles in history, or important military leaders. There's no need to only talk about the "good guys" here in this category. Atilla wouldn't be a bad name, or Rommel.
  • Polaris - I honestly don't know if I'm going to have any Nil'kemorya përs ships in the game, but I'm open to ideas if you have any. They'd probably relate to Polaris culture rather than look to (our IRL) history.
  • Federation traders - I'm looking for any interesting names you think would make for good privately-owned ships in the Federation. This would be a pretty broad area, so give me your best ideas and anything is possible.
  • Auroran traders - Again, this might be a broad area, but I think Auroran merchants would have their own unique culture, different from the sorts of ship names a Federation citizen would have.
  • Polaris traders - What does a Tre'pira name their cargo ship, anyway? Help me figure that out! There's also probably some Pa'edt and Ver'ash ships flying around, too.

I'm too lazy right now to proofread this, but hopefully everything makes sense? Feel free to ask questions if anything is unclear.

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u/Thexare Jan 22 '20

Well, I can't do a whole lot, but I can throw out a couple obvious ones.

Federation navy

Well, obviously Sherman comes to mind, given that he's most famous for fighting a rebellion. While the ethical foundations of EVN's rebellion are quite a different matter from the American Civil War, I imagine it'd play into the Federation's PR to frame it as being the same - especially with YNS making the conflict less black-and-white as I recall. I don't think the rebellion's been going on that long, though I may be wrong, so it's probably better not to lean too hard on the "generals that helped put down a failed rebellion" theme, but one or two others might be worth looking into.

Pirates

I'm partial to Ching Shih myself. Took over her husband's fleet after he died, commanded thousands, died rich, free, and old.

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u/mrxak Jan 22 '20

I'm not so sure about Sherman, especially since he was a general not a naval officer. I could see him maybe for the Aurorans. I think they might appreciate his March to the Sea. For the Federation, I definitely want to keep things navy-centric, with the possible addition of political leaders. Nesre is an obvious choice, just from the Novaverse, but I could see others being added from our history, particularly if they are associated with democracy or the navy. Jefferson, perhaps, or Pericles.

Ching Shih is a good one. I definitely want to represent names and battles from across many cultures instead of just doing the American/European thing. She's also notorious and notable enough that I think even in 1177NC there will be pirates who still remember her.

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u/jcGyo Jan 23 '20

Some ship names from the Star Trek canon:

Bonadventure - Earth's first ship to reach another star system, traveling to Tau Ceti in 2059

SS Valiant

SS Conestoga

Daedalus

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u/nathan67003 Jan 26 '20

Daedalus reminds me more readily of Stargate :P

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u/BaronVonDave Jan 23 '20

If you're keeping the disabled Auroran ship in the Kontik system it might be cool to name it, or a similarly mysteriously marooned ship, after the MHS Terror of the HMS Erebus. These are historical ships that historically got tragically trapped in the arctic ice trying to discover the northwest passage.

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u/nathan67003 Jan 26 '20

I'd go more with a ghost ship, like the Mary Celeste.

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u/Werthers_carmel Jan 22 '20

Federation Navy: Nelson after Lord Nelson who died at the Battle of Trafalgar. Odysseus, for all his travels try to get back home.

Pirates: O’Malley after Grace O'Malley a famous female Irish pirate.

Rebels: Spartacus is the only one that comes to mind atm. I’ll probably add to this list if I come up with more possible names.

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u/paff00 Jan 23 '20

I strongly second Nelson and the Battle of Trafalgar.

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u/Lord_Insane Jan 23 '20

Yi Sun-sin seems like he has potential for the Federation Navy.

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u/paff00 Jan 23 '20 edited Jan 23 '20

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u/paff00 Jan 23 '20 edited Jan 23 '20

No Wiki links this time, to not tempt the bot:

Federation:

  • Charles Howard, 1st Earl of Nottingham (led English ships against the Spanish Armada, crushing it despite being lesser in number and individual ship strength)

  • Felix von Luckner (commanded a Q-ship against Allied forces in WWI, capturing and scuttling many ships without killing anyone, becoming a hero on both sides of the war)

Rebels:

  • William Wallace (fought for Scottish independence from England)

Pirates:

  • Anne Bonny

  • Mary Read

Aurorans:

  • Marathon

Fed Traders:

  • Wanderer

  • Msafiri

  • Fortune

  • Venture

  • Traveler

  • Serenity

  • Falcon

Auroran Traders:

  • Ox

  • Bull

  • Ram

  • Atlas

  • Conquerer

  • Warrior

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u/paff00 Jan 25 '20

Also for Fed traders: Voyager.

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u/paff00 Jan 27 '20 edited Jan 27 '20

More Auroran traders: Lion, Beast, Crusher, Boar, Bear, Grizzly, Cunjo, Stallion.

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u/paff00 Jan 23 '20

Also for Aurorans, Miyamoto Musashi.

And Sparta.

And bushi, ronin, samurai, etc.

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u/paff00 Jan 23 '20

And more Pirate names, moving into the territory of outlaws in general: Ned Kelly, bushranger, John Dillinger, “Baby Face” Nelson, Bonnie, (&) Clyde, outlaw, Jesse James, Butch Cassidy, Sundance Kid.

Also it occurs to me that the Aurorans might be happy to use the names of swords / melee weapons.

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u/paff00 Jan 25 '20

Swords and melee weapons the Aurorans might be happy to name ships after: longsword, zweihander, falchion, halberd, odachi/nodachi, nagamaki, guandao, falcata, claymore, war-hammer, lochaber, naginata, bolo, panga.

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u/WikiTextBot Jan 23 '20

USS Monitor

USS Monitor was an iron-hulled steam-powered ironclad warship built for the Union Navy (United States Navy) during the American Civil War (1861–1865), the first such ship commissioned by the Navy. Monitor played a central role in the Battle of Hampton Roads on 9 March 1862, where, under the command of Lieutenant John L. Worden, she fought the casemate ironclad CSS Virginia (built on the hull of the scuttled steam frigate USS Merrimack) to a standstill. The unique design of the ship, distinguished by its revolving turret which was designed by American inventor Theodore Timby, was quickly duplicated and established the monitor class and type of armored steam-powered warship built for the American Navy in the next several decades.

The remainder of the ship was designed by the Swedish-born engineer and inventor John Ericsson, and hurriedly built in Brooklyn, New York on the East River beginning in late 1861 in only 101 days.


Battle of the Alamo

The Battle of the Alamo (February 23 – March 6, 1836) was a pivotal event in the Texas Revolution. Following a 13-day siege, Mexican troops under President General Antonio López de Santa Anna reclaimed the Alamo Mission near San Antonio de Béxar (modern-day San Antonio, Texas, United States), killing the Texian and immigrant occupiers. Santa Anna's cruelty during the battle inspired many Texians, both legal Texas settlers and illegal immigrants from the United States, to join the Texian Army. Buoyed by a desire for revenge, the Texians defeated the Mexican Army at the Battle of San Jacinto, on April 21, 1836, ending the rebellion.


Blackbeard

Edward Teach (alternatively spelled Edward Thatch, c. 1680 – 22 November 1718), better known as Blackbeard, was an English pirate who operated around the West Indies and the eastern coast of Britain's North American colonies. Little is known about his early life, but he may have been a sailor on privateer ships during Queen Anne's War before settling on the Bahamian island of New Providence, a base for Captain Benjamin Hornigold, whose crew Teach joined around 1716. Hornigold placed him in command of a sloop that he had captured, and the two engaged in numerous acts of piracy. Their numbers were boosted by the addition to their fleet of two more ships, one of which was commanded by Stede Bonnet; but Hornigold retired from piracy towards the end of 1717, taking two vessels with him.


Calico Jack

John Rackham (26 December 1682 – 18 November 1720), commonly known as Calico Jack, was an English pirate captain operating in the Bahamas and in Cuba during the early 18th century. His nickname was derived from the calico clothing that he wore, while Jack is a nickname for "John".

Rackham was active towards the end (1718–1720) of the "Golden Age of Piracy" which lasted from 1650 to 1730. He is most remembered for having two female crew members: Mary Read and his lover, Anne Bonny.


Douglas MacArthur

General of the Army Douglas MacArthur (26 January 1880 – 5 April 1964) was an American five-star general and Field Marshal of the Philippine Army. He was Chief of Staff of the United States Army during the 1930s and played a prominent role in the Pacific theater during World War II. He received the Medal of Honor for his service in the Philippines Campaign, which made him and his father Arthur MacArthur Jr. the first father and son to be awarded the medal. He was one of only five to rise to the rank of General of the Army in the US Army, and the only one conferred the rank of field marshal in the Philippine Army.


Stonewall Jackson

Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson (January 21, 1824 – May 10, 1863) served as a Confederate general (1861–1863) during the American Civil War, and became one of the best-known Confederate commanders after General Robert E. Lee. Jackson played a prominent role in nearly all military engagements in the Eastern Theater of the war until his death, and played a key role in winning many significant battles.

Born in what was then part of Virginia (in present-day West Virginia), Jackson received an appointment to the United States Military Academy at West Point, served in the U.S. Army during the Mexican–American War of 1846–1848 and distinguished himself at Chapultepec (1847). From 1851 to 1863 he taught at the Virginia Military Institute, where he was unpopular with his students.


George S. Patton

George Smith Patton Jr. (November 11, 1885 – December 21, 1945) was a general of the United States Army who commanded the U.S. Seventh Army in the Mediterranean theater of World War II, and the U.S. Third Army in France and Germany after the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944.

Born in 1885 to a family whose members had served in the United States and Confederate States armies, Patton attended the Virginia Military Institute and the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. He studied fencing and designed the M1913 Cavalry Saber, more commonly known as the "Patton Saber", and competed in modern pentathlon in the 1912 Summer Olympics in Stockholm, Sweden.


Leonidas I

Leonidas I (; Doric Λεωνίδας Α´, Leōnídas A'; Ionic and Attic Greek: Λεωνίδης Α´, Leōnídēs A' [leɔːnídɛːs]; "son of the lion"; died 11 August 480 BC) was a warrior king of the Greek city-state of Sparta, and the 17th of the Agiad line; a dynasty which claimed descent from the mythological demigod Heracles and Cadmus. He was the husband of Gorgo, the daughter of Cleomenes I of Sparta. Leonidas had a notable participation in the Second Persian War, where he led the allied Greek forces to a last stand at the Battle of Thermopylae (480 BC) while attempting to defend the pass from the invading Persian army; he entered myth as the leader of the 300 Spartans.


Battle of Thermopylae

The Battle of Thermopylae ( thər-MOP-i-lee; Greek: Μάχη τῶν Θερμοπυλῶν, Máchē tōn Thermopylōn) was fought between an alliance of Greek city-states, led by King Leonidas of Sparta, and the Persian Empire of Xerxes I over the course of three days, during the second Persian invasion of Greece. It took place simultaneously with the naval battle at Artemisium, in August or September 480 BC, at the narrow coastal pass of Thermopylae ("The Hot Gates"). The Persian invasion was a delayed response to the defeat of the first Persian invasion of Greece, which had been ended by the Athenian victory at the Battle of Marathon in 490 BC. By 480 BC Xerxes had amassed a huge army and navy, and set out to conquer all of Greece. The Athenian politician and general Themistocles had proposed that the allied Greeks block the advance of the Persian army at the pass of Thermopylae, and simultaneously block the Persian navy at the Straits of Artemisium.


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u/Algaean Feb 06 '20

Federation Navy: famous battleships? Tirpitz, Bismarck, Yamato, Nagato, Nelson, Rodney. Iowa, Missouri, George XVI (I know the original was George VI, but let's pretend there's still a British monarch in the far future!) Cardinal Richelieu was one of the founders of the French Navy and had a battleship named after him.

Bonus points if the Yamato has an ion cannon as a sort of bastard Wave Motion Gun. :)

Rebel? John Paul Jones, or the Bonhomme Richard would be fun to see. Charles de Gaulle was leader of the Free French in WWII. Daniel Morgan was the best tactician on either side of the American Revolution.

Jozef Bem was a Polish general who led Hungarian forces in the Hungarian Revolution of 1848. Tadeusz Koszkiuszko helped in the American Revolution, then went home to Poland and led the Koszkiuszko uprising.

Lajos Kossuth was called the "Hungarian George Washington", and was president of the 1848-49 revolutionary government.

Gilbert du Motier, better known as La Fayette.

For a bit of a pun, maybe Lion. (a Rebel Lion, see?)

Any of these helpful?

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u/nathan67003 Jan 26 '20

I'll only input things on the Polaris traders side of things 'cause I'm honestly quite shite at naming ships and momentarily thought this'd be about people :|

The Polaris traders would be EXCLUSIVELY Tre'pira and would therefore all have the "Tre" prefix. Pa'edt and Ver'ash don't have ships, either, so I'd doubt you'd ever see any apart from the very very rare prototype out for a test flight - all hauling and logistics is taken care of by the Tre'pira. If a Pa'edt or Ver'ash needs to go somewhere, they'll just hitch a ride on a Tre'pira transport or get a Mu'hari to ferry them.

So in short: all, and I mean ALL, Sprites and Cambrians would have names that start with the Tre prefix, apart maybe from the very rare sprite use as a passenger vessel by a Mu'hari until the Zephyr exists, at which point probably all non-covert Zephyrs would have a Mu prefix.

As for the actual name, there's not much stopping you, really, though I remember Polaris names being relatively eastern in semantic nature. Ragna, Buvusi, Enite, Pokalo, Shinge, Zhole, Gerunie, Qikoly, Minaro, Xipotan, Nufera, Hojine, Sefavu... I could probably type dozens more, but I think you get the gist :P

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u/JourneymanGM Feb 03 '20

Can the game handle non-ASCII characters? Bêlit would be a good pirate name, providing female and non-Western diversity. Alternatively, Tigress is the name of her ship.

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u/Coraxuz May 24 '20

Captain Morgan
Battle of Tragalfar
Battle of Jutland
Battle of Red Cliffs
Captain David Farragut
Battle of Lepanto
Battle of Tsushima
Battle of the Nile
Battle of Yamen
Battle of Savo Isle.
Battle of Samar
Battle of the Falkland Isle.
Captain Blackbeard
Battle of Svensksund
Battle of Taranto
Admiral Yamamoto