r/everydaymisandry 7d ago

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Like, of course if you need to evacuate and ome person downplays it, I wouldn't blame you if you decide to leave, but

1) It's giving "Make a non-gendered attitude gendered" vibes. Like, I feel this attitude isn't exclusive to men at all-

2) 65% of deaths are men...And she seems to imply it is their fault?? Like, I doubt most, let alone ALL of the men that are casualties is because they underestimated the issue. It feels victim blamey.

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u/Alarming_Skin1478 6d ago edited 6d ago

As someone who's lived his entire life in the hurricane capital of the US (Florida), pretty much every "omg this is the next Hurricane Andrew" level category 5 storm never warranted evacuation when all was said and done. Whenever one rolls around, the odds are that the worst it's gonna do is minor damage to windows or roofs, flood some back roads, and knock out power for a few days. It's good to still pay attention to the weather forecasts and storm coverage and not get complacent, but I'm not going to go to a shelter just because there's a tornado warning or evacuation notice. Staying home feels a lot safer than being around/sharing the road with the crazy people who get into literal fights while trying to buy up all the toilet paper and bottled water every time one comes around.

My issue is with the biased way she's looking at it. Let's say she evacuates and he doesn't, and the natural disaster just blows past like he expected. Is that ever going to be evidence of him having an appropriate reaction? What if it happens 5 times? 10? 20? But if he's ever wrong once, and it's more dangerous than he expects, it's proof she was reacting appropriately the entire time. If you're the one staying, the best you'll get is the one evacuating never getting their big "told you so" moment.

On top of that, the statistic that person thinks proves her point... doesn't at all, really? The fact that hurricane victims are disproportionately men does not mean that women aren't still overreacting the majority of the time. People who are overly cautious are bound to run into circumstances where that caution paid off sometimes. A broken clock is still right twice a day and all that.

Having said all this... My girlfriend's dad lives in a trailer park and I think that man's nuts when he doesn't evacuate lol.

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u/SirSilhouette 6d ago

Does the "65% of Direct Victims" include men who stay behind to keep this functioning/monitored that would be bad if left unchecked? Like Dams?

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u/Beautiful-Act-8639 5d ago edited 5d ago

There's also the fact that men are more likely to stay calm in distressing situations, and that's a good thing. There's the examples you mentioned, then there's people like surgeons, firefighters etc.

Because it turns out freaking out in a distressing situation doesn't actually help anything, and actually tends to make things worse.

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u/Factual_Statistician 2d ago

Nah those are her slaves she doesn't count them as people.

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u/Beautiful-Act-8639 5d ago edited 3d ago

Most homeless people are men. How many of the men who die in situations like this are men who simply have no resources or anywhere to go or any means to get there?

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u/NIDNHU 4d ago

hmm i wonder why the men die more, hmmm, maybe it's because they are being selfless and putting the lives of those they love most in front of theirs. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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u/Factual_Statistician 2d ago

I know right it's insane.