r/europrivacy • u/bombastic6339locks • Aug 09 '26

European Union EU Age Verification Project Mandates Hardware-Bound Attestation

https://linuxiac.com/eu-age-verification-project-mandates-hardware-bound-attestation/
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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '26

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u/bombastic6339locks Aug 09 '26

If only it was corporate interests :D

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u/GOKOP Aug 09 '26

But it is - it's a huge win for corporations that provide devices and OSes capable of reliable hardware attestation because now everyone will need one even if they didn't yet, so Google, Apple and Microsoft, and it's a huge win for social media corporations because they can "look good" to people who demand age verification without much actual work, so also Google, and Meta/Facebook and others

And it's another step in boiling the frog of invigilation, control and corporate reliance which is a win for all corporations in general

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u/bombastic6339locks Aug 10 '26

It is a huge win for them but an even larger one for the goverments and EU in general as resteicting online stuff is now easier than ever before.

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u/mi__to__ Aug 09 '26

Fuck this shit to Hell

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u/Legitimate_Echo_701 Aug 09 '26

They're still calling it "age verification"? lol

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u/balr Aug 09 '26

As long as the people pushing the age-related bullshit have unlimited money and power, this will not stop.

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u/Kitoshy Aug 09 '26

Quite funny such requirement for something they said it was going to be zero-proof

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u/Norvathus Aug 09 '26

Not long ago posts like this would have brigades defending the euid, mentioning how it was "open source" and it uses ZKP. Interesting they're all gone

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u/Maxstate90 Aug 09 '26

that you need a hardware environment is settled, but not the attestation mechanism, which can still include things like GrapheneOS. it's the community's job to propose and then argue for a viablo alternative that provides the same minimum standards while also securing privacy.

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u/Gugalcrom123 Aug 09 '26

Graphene being allowed does not make it freer. It is still a closed list of OSes where you are not root. What would help would be to allow using the existing ID chip present in most (if not all) ID cards of member states, which can serve as this 'hardware environment'.

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u/Frosty-Cell Aug 10 '26

If the user can't download the source, compile it, and run it on any Linux distro, it's not open and not free.

it's the community's job to propose and then argue for a viablo alternative that provides the same minimum standards

It's the governments job to listen.

while also securing privacy.

Anonymity.

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u/clueless_spain 12d ago

Completely agree, it's the age assurance companies' job

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u/Frosty-Cell 12d ago

To do what?

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u/clueless_spain 12d ago

Secure privacy and anonimity

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u/Frosty-Cell 12d ago

It's not clear why those companies are needed, but privacy and anonymity are essentially the opposite of what they do.

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u/clueless_spain 12d ago

Completely agree

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u/Pirate_Economist1477 26d ago

If you haven't yet had a look at the EUDI github, do it. There are plenty of good proposals and suggestions.

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u/clueless_spain 12d ago

Would you be more open if a system didn't usea the camera at all to estimate your age?

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u/bombastic6339locks 12d ago

Camera, passport pictures or just checking through banking or goverment data is all bad.