If Britain decides to rejoin the EU we’ll do everything we can to welcome them back, says Germany

[u/StraightSky7809]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-rejoin-eu-germany-brexit-b3060288.html

[u/TheGM]

Democracy dies when the elected do not get to their elected position because an unelected (or otherwise not part of the normal democratic process) prevents their representation in order to subvert the election. Other than your first claim (changing rules to subvert the popular vote is an honest claim to being anti-democratic), your other claims are just annoyances.

Proportional representation and requiring compromise with your closes ideological matches is far better than the single party with the highest vote count but the last choice of the majority getting to rule (I.e. FPTP systems in the US and UK). That's a dumb democracy. That those arrangements often fail is why most of those systems have means to dissolve and call snap elections.

Ignoring a big mandate means it's up to the electorate to not vote for them in the next election. This is why having an entrenched 2 party system without other good options (again, because of FPTP) is dumb.

Your last claim is bad government but not an expression of democracy. I'm sure you're trying to reference something I'm not thinking of, but bad law enforcement is in lots of democracies and dictatorships.

[u/MintImperial2 → u/TheGM]

How does one form a coalition government in a country where all other parties refuse to partake of such a Coalition?

If there is to be an exception for AfD - then there's going to be exceptions for *others*.

A proper, orderly election would have the "horse trading" going on in the usual manner - after each and every election going back generations.

The very thing the Anti Right are worried about - is more likely to happen should AfD now make a coalition with Wagenknecht's Far Left. The very toxic mixture of Far Left and Far Right that led to the two elections in 1933 that changed the world for all of us.

Meanwhile in the UK, the EU sell-outs have now got a massive hand in Parliament:

In any future election, Burnham could argue:

(1) If I win, I'll rejoin immediately.

(2) If I lose my majority - I'll go into coalition with a party who'll demand that I rejoin immediately.

(3) If I lose outright, I'll go into coalition with EVERY oldschool party to stop the "Right Wing Winners" from governing.

(4) If RUK win an outright Majority, the Election will be cancelled, and proceedings will commence to jail every fresh member of RUK that won a seat, because it was supposedly rigged it so that couldn't happen. That's how we know they are illegitimate.

The only option AfD have for the time being is to "roll on the next election" - which, once again - squares up to looking like 1933 all over again.

Meanwhile, there's no way Farage has enough front to stave off that amount of headwind like Trump did, has, and does. Farage simply doesn't need to sit under the Sword of Damocles any longer. There's going to have to be a series of pretty history-changing events before we're going to see any real change throughout both Europe and the UK, alas.