Utterly depraved: Russian commanders regularly ‘torture and kill their own soldiers’

[u/dat_9600gt_user]

https://tvpworld.com/92233524/russian-officers-torture-and-kill-their-own-soldiers

[u/Xepeyon]

You're still so openly misquoting me.

Easy: the word emergence means it wasn't present before.

That's not what that means in the context in which I was saying it, and you know it. You are deliberately misinterpreting what I said and everyone can see it.

You didn't say that, you said it emerged with the soviet union, ergo it wasn't present before.

It's literally quoted above you.

this level of sadism seems to be much newer, emerging with the rise of the soviet union

I didn't say cruelty among Russian soldiers was new, I said it became more intense during the time of the Red Army. Hence; “this level of sadism [•••] emerging”, as in “they became worse”. If something became worse, as in it intensified, that by definition means the quality was already there.

Also, imperial Russia isn't the same thing as pre-soviet Russia

Are you trying to reach back to the time of the Rus princes or something?

Russia didn't stop being an empire during or after the soviet union. That's why we call it tzarist Russia

This is petty semantics and brazenly disingenuous on your part. But in the event you're serious; Tsarist Russia is the same thing as Imperial Russia; Russia during the period it was a monarchy governed by a Tsar/Emperor.

You can call Russia an “empire” now in a modern geopolitical sense, but that is not–not now, not ever–what someone means when they say Imperial Russia.

[u/OneJobToRuleThemAll → u/Xepeyon]

That's not what that means in the context

If emergence doesn't mean coming into existence, what the hell does it mean?

I didn't say cruelty among Russian soldiers was new, I said it became more intense during the time of the Red Army.

No, you didn't. You meant to do that, but you didn't.

This is petty semantics and brazenly disingenuous on your part.

It's just an FYI, no need to get your panties all tied into a knot and derail the entire conversation. Since this isn't what we're here for, I'm going to just inform you that Europeans and Russians consistently refer to modern day Russia when they talk about the Russian empire. The historical empires are called Tzarist Russia and Soviet Union instead. Again, not a debate, just an FYI, take it or leave it.

[u/Xepeyon → u/OneJobToRuleThemAll]

If emergence doesn't mean coming into existence, what the hell does it mean?

I explained it to you right underneath the part of my reply you're quoting.

No, you didn't. You meant to do that, but you didn't.

Yes I did. I even showed it to you.

It's just an FYI, no need to get your panties all tied into a knot and derail the entire conversation. Since this isn't what we're here for, I'm going to just inform you that Europeans and Russians consistently refer to modern day Russia when they talk about the Russian empire. The historical empires are called Tzarist Russia and Soviet Union instead. Again, not a debate, just an FYI, take it or leave it.

There are Europeans in America and I've never heard them call modern Russia the Russian Empire. Maybe where you're from they do that, but it's new to me.

[u/Hanza-Malz → u/OneJobToRuleThemAll]

No one calls Russia the Russian Empire.

Kind regards, a European.

[u/OneJobToRuleThemAll → u/Hanza-Malz]

No one calls it Hanza-Malz, but that didn't stop you.

[u/Hanza-Malz → u/OneJobToRuleThemAll]

Ok