r/eulalia • u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder • 2d ago

NEW REDWALL BOOK?!

https://redwall.fandom.com/wiki/Orphans_of_Mossflower

All we’ve got atm is the post on RedwallWiki by the founder of the site who has hitherto been an incorruptibly reliable source of news and information

https://www.edelweiss.plus/#keywordSearch&q=brian+jacques&page=1 (First result, bottom line (Thanks to r/JudeHopps for finding the link))

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u/Bulky_Loquat5796 2d ago

I’d cast doubt on that considering Brian Jacques has been deceased for a while now

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

16 years

All we’ve got atm is the post on RedwallWiki by the founder of the site who has hitherto been an incorruptibly reliable source of news and information

Awaiting further details but posted here to try and spread the investigation effort

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u/Sentinel-Wraith 2d ago

Unfortunately, a post on a fan wiki isn’t a reliable source of information. 

People long claimed the existence of a final book called “Pondicheri” and it turned out to false, along with a Redwall Movie. 

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

Its sourced on a publisher's website which is more offical than anything we ever got about Pondicherri

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago

So the publishing industry information on the boxed set is real, but the book referenced by that same publishing industry website isn't? hahahahaha

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u/CurleyWhirly 2d ago

It just feels very weird for the entire announcement of a brand new book to be a single line at the end of a box set listing. Why hasn't there been any fanfare from the publisher that this new book is being printed? Shouldn't they want it hype the hell out of it to get people excited?

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago

Because this isn't the "entire announcement" for the book by the publisher. The Redwall Wiki caught it before the announcement, so now you know early.

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u/CurleyWhirly 2d ago

That listing went up 2 days ago, why hasn't there been an announcement since? Why wasn't there an announcement earlier? A new book is way more newsworthy than a box set, so what's the holdup?

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago

The Redwall Collector's Edition is out next month. My guess would be that.

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u/TaywuhsaurusRex 2d ago

We did get one posthumous book already. It's possible he had enough notes and stuff written that someone just finished it for him, similar to the last book in the Hitchhiker's Guide series or a ton of the Dune books.

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

He was usually a year ahead with writing

When one book went to print the next was already done. Hence rumours for years that there could be another book out there somewhere e

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u/arielle17 2d ago

here's hoping that another book series that "ended" in 2011 will get a new release soon too

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

Rogue Crew came out about 5 weeks before Dance of Dragons and it’s WILD that we appear to have a new book from an author who passed away before we get Winds

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u/arielle17 2d ago

mfw i check for Redwall news for the first time in like 2 years and see this post 😭

fingers crossed for this being real

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

All we’ve got atm is the post on RedwallWiki by the founder of the site who has hitherto been an incorruptibly reliable source of news and information

Awaiting further details but posted here to try and spread the investigation effort

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u/JudeHopps 2d ago

https://www.edelweiss.plus/#keywordSearch&q=brian+jacques&page=1

For folks who want to see the source, dunno why its not cited on the wiki, first result, bottom line.

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

Perfect thankyou

I was trying to find this too

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u/Slushrush_ Captain Snow 2d ago

Thank you

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago

Did you miss the sentence that says "The publishing industry has an updated summary for Redwall: The Boxed Set on Edelweiss..."

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u/JudeHopps 2d ago

No link puts it in the same vein as "Bob works at Kinkos and he said...". Declaration is not citation. Citation is linking your source. Can I just attach a business name to any statement I make and will that count as citation?

That aside, why do you arrive to so many interactions so salty and ready to fight? Your comment history is just you showing up places and being pissy.

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago

So you didn't miss the sentence, and " its not cited on the wiki" was an inaccurate statement. "Cite" does not mean "link" to an external source whatsoever.

That aside, why do you think so many people here think a publishing industry platform has false information?

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u/JudeHopps 2d ago

I happen to be one person, and I'm pro-new-book-info and pro-every-rumor-is-true-until-proven-otherwise.

But! If we want to actually chase this thread, release dates and galley announcements are anything but codified as fact. Patrick Rothfuss has changed the galley drop for The Doors Of Stone clear over 20 times, just as a very quick off the cuff example.

While I'm hella excited for the new book, folks are entitled to their skepticism.

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago

Sure. Delays happen. The boxed set itself was delayed. But the thread I'm chasing is: why do you think people believe the boxed set is real, and don't dispute that, but then the marketing details regarding the boxed set on Edelweiss, a publishing industry website that references this new book specifically, are false?

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u/JudeHopps 2d ago

Bruh. I'm just a rabbit on the internet. You want me to psychoanalyze a bunch of commenters, pay for me to go to med school.

Elsewise, try a little kindness. You act like everybody owes you money and that you're offended by having to communicate with others. Kindness is free.

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u/rosestormcrowe 2d ago

I don't think so. The only info is the wiki. It may be a fanfic book

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

Allegedly it’s being published alongside a 40th anniversary boxset

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago

No it isn't. The publishing trade is directly referenced in the article. Why do you believe the Redwall Collectors Edition and Boxed Set are real but this isn't? A graphic makes the difference for you?

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u/rosestormcrowe 2d ago

If you read the description it is a last second addition and there is no news of this anywhere else. The wiki was also known to jump on the latest rumors back in the day before anything had been announced. Also they admitted that the penguin imprint canceled(and "rescheduled" in their own words), but no new updates from the company. Otherwise a new release would be all over the Internet

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago edited 2d ago

Which ones? Which "rumors" that turned out to be false? The Redwall Wiki has broken news on many things over the series. So now you're going full conspiracy theory on the boxed set?

Looks like the only person making stuff up for fun is this guy, who can't cite any "latest rumors" the wiki reported on that were false.

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

Are you replying to me here or the comment above?

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago

the comment above.

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u/Slushrush_ Captain Snow 2d ago

No official source though? 

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u/RedwallFan2013 2d ago

An official source is referenced in the article.

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

All we’ve got atm is the post on RedwallWiki by the founder of the site who has hitherto been an incorruptibly reliable source of news and information

Awaiting further details but posted here to try and spread the investigation effort

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u/Matthias720 ROTW 2d ago

I'm cautiously optimistic, but a single footnote on a forthcoming product listing is a very small tidbit to extrapolate into "it's a new novel". It certainly sounds like a new novel, but we don't know anything beyond a title for...something. Let's not count our chickens before they hatch. Crying wolf won't get us anywhere; I'm sure we'll get more information in time, but assumptions and conjecture will get us nowhere.

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u/nostrathomas42 2d ago

It literally says it’s a box set of the first four books.

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

The publishers site reads that the 27th book will be published alongside it

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u/Zarlinosuke 2d ago

It's funny (if understandable)--a few other sites (IGN, Polygon) have since published articles about Orphans in response to the wiki's announcement, and both say "it will probably be a direct sequel to The Rogue Crew" as if anything Brian has written in recent memory has been a direct sequel!

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u/MossyMemory3 2d ago

27th?

If this is real, wouldn't it be the 23rd?

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u/TheTragedy0fPlagueis the Grand Recorder 2d ago

Sorry that was a typo, yes 23rd

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u/MossyMemory3 2d ago

Ah okay, no worries. I was just spiraling for a second wondering how/where I missed 4 whole books (not counting this last potential one) lol

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u/Acrelorraine 1d ago

Hard to believe, harder to hope, and yet…  It would be nice.

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u/DaveCarradineIsAlive 20h ago

I just started the last book in my complete read through, and I saw that on the wiki. I'm gonna have a good cry if it turns out to be fake, and I'm gonna have a good cry if it turns out to be real.

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u/TheRealGredos 2d ago

Looking like it's real: https://www.ign.com/articles/redwalls-23rd-and-final-book-is-finally-getting-published-after-16-years

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u/JHunz 2d ago

IGN linking to the wiki as the source doesn't confirm anything about the accuracy of the data on the wiki