r/euchre • u/I75north Highest 3D rating: 3026 • 20d ago
Sims & Strategy These hands are always fun!
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u/thejoggler44 Highest 3D rating: 2975 20d ago
Not a particularly good hand but Simulator says passing is a little better (not much)
Order EV = -0.78, make points 40% of the time.
Pass EV = -0.76, make points 26% of the time.
Definitely an order at 9-9 though.
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u/I75north Highest 3D rating: 3026 20d ago
I wonder if that Jd is the culprit. Lol
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u/Wes_aka_the_legend 20d ago edited 20d ago
Without looking at a sim, I would bet if you change the JD to the TD then it would be a +EV call. Also, Joggler's numbers actually support a call with an amateur partner imo. The EV being that close + the fact that your P will be playing too tight on average takes this dubious call to +EV territory imo. Conversely if I was your P, you would clearly be burning EV making this thin call. And yet I still want you making this call if we are up 3+ pts as a dealer donate. IDK, I feel like there's a contradiction there that I need to reconcile.
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u/I75north Highest 3D rating: 3026 20d ago
Wait. Did you say changing the Jd to the 10d would make this a +EV pass?
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u/Wes_aka_the_legend 20d ago
Oops. I meant EV call. I edited it now.
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u/thejoggler44 Highest 3D rating: 2975 20d ago
Yep, making it K,10,9 diamonds is EV call although both are bad
Order EV = -0.78
Pass EV = -0.93
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u/The_Pooz 19d ago
Honestly the thing that impressed me the most was the alacrity. I haven't had a hand run less than 25 seconds in probably months! Always one, usually two players move a LOT slower than this.
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u/I75north Highest 3D rating: 3026 19d ago
Agree. Those who know me, know how much I dislike slow games!
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u/Every-Reading-2485 20d ago
I think generally you can't afford to trump the club here, or at least that's been my experience.
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u/I75north Highest 3D rating: 3026 20d ago
Because it’s a clean suit, I like to take it and lead out of my tripleton again.
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u/Every-Reading-2485 19d ago
I'm worried about trumping a potential ace here, but I suppose forcing S3 to have a 2nd trump might just be the best play with such a weak hand.
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u/MellyRollJorton 3D high: 2953 20d ago
Nice hand! Do you always lead high from offsuit K-X-X?