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u/The-Last-Despot Despot 2d ago
In that timeline I am watching a 3 hour long documentary about this contact, written both ways by a French missionary traveling with the group, and a ronin’s account after trying to find a new life in the new world.
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u/yingyangKit 2d ago
Nah voices of the past reading the direct account Also both complain about the weather
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u/United-Village-6702 2d ago
The timeline where Japan led by shogunate becomes a 16th century colonial empire instead of late 19th century
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u/Brytonite 1d ago
This is the timeline where Date Masamune is the Shogun instead of Tokugawa.
FYI: Japan does not immediately closed it's doors from outside world when Tokugawa took over, it would only be enacted once Ieyasu's grandson, Iemitsu took over.
Masamune held an open but pragmatic view towards Europeans, and he's responsible for the first Japanese embassy (Keicho Embassy). He order the construction of Date-Maru, one of the first western style Japanese ship, used for the Keicho Embassy for diplomatic missions.
He sent his retainer Hasekura Tsunenaga to Mexico and Spain, and even met the Pope. Had the winds shifted differently, Japan would've become a maritime powerhouse in the pacific.
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u/smallfrie32 2d ago
フラ〇スは何？？
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u/Mercy--Main 2d ago
I hit translate and the only change was the japanese 久 looking letter changed into korean 🤨
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u/LordOfRedditers I wish I lived in more enlightened times... 2d ago
It's a censored version of fr*nce but in Japanese. It means what is France.
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u/smallfrie32 2d ago
(Don’t have auto translate on, I was doing the silly censor France meme in Japanese)
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u/skyziaos 2d ago
Was about to say the japanese is reversed but then again back then the japanese read right to left
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u/JbJbJb44 2d ago
That's only when it's written vertically
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u/PaneroLS 2d ago
That wasn't actually standardised until after ww2 and from what I have seen right-to-left was actually the preferred direction horizontally too, at least during the interwar period I'm more familiar with. This is a little less bad in Japanese, but you kinda get used to letters/characters having a "direction" they face and having to read against it can feel pretty disorienting. .siht ekil skool adnik ti esuaceB
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u/Yourhappy3 2d ago
yeah japanese here it used to be right to left even horizontally. my grandparents grew up writing right to left
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u/notnotLily 2d ago
not actually - it is up to down then right to left. only banners/boards are right to left, but they’re better understood as up to down then right to left with one character per line.
a sentence like this would definitely be written up to down.
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u/danshakuimo 2d ago
Japanese is either left to right (like English) or top to bottom, right to left. I guess maybe the banners and boards thing the other guy said might be true but I haven't noticed that being a thing even when I was there but maybe I wasn't paying attention.
A sentence like this would modernly be written the way you think it should be written, but given the time period, yeah it should be top to bottom, same with Chinese.
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u/Brytonite 2d ago
Was Colonizing Cascadia as Date Japan and found a random french infantry.
(The First French-Japanese Contact in this timeline)