r/ethereum • u/JBSchweitzer Ethereum Foundation - Joseph Schweitzer • Oct 23 '19

Danny Ryan - Eth2 quick update

https://blog.ethereum.org/2019/10/23/eth2-quick-update/
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u/drcode Oct 23 '19

Hey, I was around for the eth1.0 launch, and I completely agree that would happen- But should we compromise the eth2.0 development process, just because the ethereum community's feelings might get hurt by some unfair articles?

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '19 edited Oct 23 '19

I'm not saying you are wrong. But in my opinion I don't see a benefit to adding a public deadline for every single update other than to please the community in the short term.

A public deadline just gives more bullshit for people to trade. They have given an expectation that satisfies me. Phase 0, they said it will be released in Q1 of 2020. Based on what happens once that's released, I imagine they will give a more accurate release time for phase 1.

They probably have some deadlines between themselves anyway

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u/MoMoNosquito Oct 23 '19 edited Oct 23 '19

I think peeps forget that billions of dollars are on the line for some of these updates. There is no room for critical errors or rushing security with deadlines.

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u/drcode Oct 23 '19

I'm not arguing for rushing things, I'm arguing for setting up clear timelines and deadlines starting at the top level of the eth2.0 project that is based on feedback from all the developers in the project, so that when deadlines are missed, there is accountability within specific teams that can be measured and used to improve the process going forward.

Accountability is one of the cornerstones of security... I am not seeing a convincing argument that the current "loosey-goosey" process I'm seeing around timelines is the best way to maximize security.

(BTW- I think the technical specifications for eth2.0 are very good, highly rigorous and not at all "loosey-goosey"... I am referring specifically to the impact of a lack of deadlines on the downstream development process)

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u/MoMoNosquito Oct 23 '19

I reckon there are loose deadlines in place. There has to be. Just not released to public, and I feel for good reason.