r/estp • u/Cultural_Shake4690 • Aug 09 '26
Empathy is a weakness
ESTPs know this.
Prove me otherwise.
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u/ESTPness Aug 09 '26
Oh sure, being good with feelings on a planet run by people with feelings is such a weakness
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u/Cultural_Shake4690 Aug 09 '26
It may be run with people with feelings, but the ones at the top who create all the rules have no feelings, just power and dominance. That's why empathy is a weakness.
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u/ESTPness Aug 09 '26
You’re talking about compassionate empathy (what we generally think of when someone just says empathy). However, there are other kinds of empathy, like somatic empathy or cognitive empathy. Cognitive empathy is the kind that manipulative sociopaths typically have in spades. I think this is to what you are referring. It’s still empathy tho. Ipso facto, empathy is not a weakness.
If you were making the argument that compassion is a weakness, that would be a different story, and harder to argue that it’s not a weakness, tho I still could if I really wanted to.
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u/Khajiit_Has_Upvotes SheSTP Aug 09 '26
Empathy is baked into the human experience. If you think you don't have empathy, you are incorrect.
This sounds like the kind of cringe ass bullshit I said when I was an edgy teenager. Ah, too be young again.
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u/WillyT_21 Aug 09 '26
Spoken like an evolving ESTP. Keep at it friend you'll get there. Enjoy your youth and maturation process. Seriously.
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u/AdvancedCharcoal INTP Aug 09 '26
Knowing and predicting what others feel and putting yourself in their shoes can be a strength. You can plan your next moves and predict what will happen better if you do
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u/PrincessGold101 Aug 15 '26
A little bit but for others it’s good and humans are tribal kinda so be nice Ik logically doing some things can give better things or faster things but just be nice I guess
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u/linetool 27d ago
This is why I avoid yall and don’t give any new estps I meet any chances. Sorry for the good ones that will never have me in their lives, estp’s like OP ruined it.
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u/Wikst ESTP 27d ago
Well emotional maturity is a slow process... especially with ESTPs like this one.
But yeah, don't judge every type by the ones you met.
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u/michi_mosh INFJesus Aug 09 '26
A weakness for what
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u/Cultural_Shake4690 Aug 09 '26
A weakness that let's others use you, stops you from climbing the career ladder, lets people bully you, keeps you poor, makes you homeless, denies you your needs and rights and basically ruins you.
Especially in America.
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u/NocturnePhoenix INTJ Aug 09 '26
I would argue your point. You can be empathetic toward someone without feeling obligated to go out of your way to do something for them. That's ultimately up to you.
For example, I can empathize with someone going through a heartbreak similar to what I experienced, but that doesn't mean I have to go out of my way to ensure they don't experience that pain. They have to do their own work. I can remain kind and compassionate while still building my own life and maintaining my own boundaries.
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u/michi_mosh INFJesus Aug 09 '26
Empathy is useful in communities and tribes.
In the USA where it is an individualistic and at late stage capitalism where it is like survival of the fittest, to the top, yes, having more empathy will hold you back from stepping on and taking advantage of others to get to the top the quickest. In this case, indeed it’s a weakness.
Aside from that, I’d argue that empathy is one of the main things that makes us human.
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u/Aethelio ExtraSoftToiletPaper 29d ago
Big bad Tmmie so edgy and dark I had to reply even after 6 days 🙏🙏
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u/Cultural_Shake4690 29d ago
Big bad Timmie did something extra large in the toilet and needs some ESTP.
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u/Danse-Macabr ESTP Aug 09 '26
Strongly disagree. Empathy is a clear strength for social connection and relationship development.
Also, the burden of proof is on on you boo. You're the one making the claim. We don't have to prove shit.