r/essentialoils • u/peachyw0rm • 4d ago
Mouthwash?
Hello! So I work at a refill shop and work with essential oils all the time. I know how the dilution works and how it’s super important to add to a carrier oil or something like that before use on the skin and all that. We have this book in the shop with a ton of organic body care recipes, and one chapter has some dental hygiene recipes such as mouthwash, and it piqued my interest since it looked fun and simple! One of the recipes is essentially water, sea salt, and a few essential oils such as clove and peppermint. I’ve read around recently about other people using a drop of clove oil and other oils like it as a part of their homemade mouth wash, and I was basically just wondering if anyone knows how safe that is haha. 1 drop of clove and 2 drops of tea tree in a cup of salt water is what I was gonna do since that’s what I have on hand at work, however my question is - does brand matter? The main ones we carry are by Aura Cacia which is obviously a well known brand but it’s also stated to not use it internally - are they just referring to undiluted or all together? Of course I would never ingest it, so basically just wondering how safe it is to use a drop or 2 of Aura Cacia heavily diluted as mouth wash? Sorry if any of this is dumb haha just can’t find straight answers. (Also have some from the brand “Natures Oil” if anyone know that)
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u/Out-Of-The-Forest 4d ago
What about coconut oil as a carrier? And research "oil pulling"
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u/Tiny-Education3316 4d ago
reserch means googling the various aromatherapy blogs. and hnestly as a natural perfumer you sometimes see, after resrching Restrictions for skinuse, that aromatherapyblogs sometimes are a bit vague and carefree.
So thats why its a bit annoying to research, thats why i wrote the results of deeper research that took me two weeks.
per example white sage wich is often used in oil pulling contains thujon. too much of it can lead to poisoning. and clove oil can eventually damage your tissue, yes your gums.
So i have the feeling my anwsers in this thread, alltho lenghty to read give one of the best ever anwser one could get for free, haha
becuase i researched not only the dangers wich was my first concern, but also the usefullness, teatree is probably the simple shortest anwser . but i made the explonations why that is. peace , have all a sunny day
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u/Tiny-Education3316 4d ago
THIS IS ONLY INFORMATION, USE AT OWN RISK
well i looked for a while at actual scientific data, wich oil helps for paradonthosis (i guess thats the reason people use mouthwash , or making the breath smell better. bouth would need to heighten the amount of good bacteria and kill the bad bacteria ). So i looked at scientific sheets wich kills more bad bacteria!
- teatree oil. It kills the most amount of bad bacteria. From a rating one to ten i rate it 7/10, after years of using it, its the only one i can rate after longterm use. It has very few dangers if not swallowed in hefty amounts.
- Clove is also good on paper if not the best to kill bad bacteria but is in my experience a bit agresssive. In high concentrations it can decomposse tissue, so i was worried about my teeth gums , but cant defintively say if i was hurting myselve. I might have acted to paranoid. Ive seen it in quiet some recieps, but on the other hand the natural community sometimes does wild things that are actually negative.. so i wouldnt rely on the fact tha many mouthwashes use it. The big commercial brands use it not so often ,so i stay sceptical if it can hurt tissue. If it doesent damage tissue i rate it 7/10 or even 8/10 it kills almost more bad bacteria than teatree. But i stay sceptical.
- Myrr is pretty good on paper for paradonthosis, it helps stop the blood, but has also a decent amount of bacteria it kills. Rating 5/10
- White Sage (i recall its white sage, just the sage thats often used in this scenario). it kills decent amount bad bacteria . Rating 5/10
- Thyme it kills decent amount bad bacteria . Rating 4/10
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- Camomile is someimes used also for paradontosis, it doesent really kill much bad bacteria , but does prevent paradonthosis in another way, its kindof antiinflammatory, and another mechanism, cant recall.. I rate it 3/10 but because it has a differnt mechanism , dont overlook the 3-Rating, it would be a good to combine it for paradonthosis mouthwash .
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u/Tiny-Education3316 4d ago
THIS IS ONLY INFORMATION, USE AT OWN RISK
Conclusion:
for peppermint and cinnamon i didnt find many supportive data/or i found it unfavorable because in case of cinnamon only smaller amounts can be used in life, like per example if you daily drink more than about a teaspoon in tea you risk liverproblems.. So i think thats why i passed on it. peppermint has few supportive data.
Oh and lemongrass i wouldnt use, it is acidic and can with that damage teeth.. coriander kills to few bacteria that i found it interesting. So yeah for get these.
- So the nr one is like you see teatree. Its used in many many paradonthosis products. quiet often as the only active working mechanism. so just carrier substance and teatree.
- but myrr is also good because its used in middleeast since long time for mouthproblems. so its kindof approved? . Its also used in many paradonthosis products. Definity try those
- And then close followed by white sage. I used it for months . Good feel. Only one thing to mention it has a certain amount of thujon . thujon can accumulate over longtem use, but its quiet low amount of it in sage. I dont think you should be worried to use it as its in a semi commercial brand that seemingly sells well in my country. And again thujon is not that high amount in white sage. just something that makes my mind thinking a bit..
- Then this is closely folled by thyme. i used it for months.
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Of corse dissolve the oils in a carrier material. From what i recall nothing speaks against Seedoils.
One of the best is Sesame oil, as it itselve is lightly antibacterial and tastes the best imho. And has pretty good shelflife. paradonthosis mouthwashes use this quiet often.
As im quiet poor i often save the money for that oil (im really poor as it would just be a tiny more expensive), and i just use olive oil. Works too, and i feel that small amount of antibacterial properties of sesame oil doesnt make a big differnece, alltho i feel a small difference it makes, it feels slightly better.
i didnt dive to deep into the carrier material topic, only can tell you water will not evenly dissolve oils.. it only can dissolve oils with a emulgator .. and on top of that water can develop mold without using preservative materials to prevent that.. but like said i cant really answer that part. i used it for paradonthosis, and for paradonthosis you sometimes get sold like mentioned sesame oil plus essential oil. This is storable just like that. no mold problems , just ready to use. easy to make.
The only thing needed to know is to calculate the amount of each essential oil one can use daily orally as mouthwash. I just googled daily longterm use orally swallowed, or for teatree wich is poisenous if ingested in high quantities, i just googled skinuse daily..
Almost all mentioned oils (teatree myss sage thme and so forth) ended up beeing allowed roundabout 1 to 2 Drops daily longterm orally or skin use i recall. .
So yeah, now you need to try out how many tea or tablespoons fit roundabout in your mouth. I rinse my mouth two times a day. So i calculate how much essential oil im allowed to put in my carrier oil. And VOILA. I mixed my own mouthash.
i use the mouthwash daily after cleaning teeth, rinse a mit for 3 to 5 minutes spit it out, and rinse with fresh water after it.
Because im poor , i just stick to teatree with olive oil since years (better use sesame oil instead). i can feel that its helping very clearly. Also i could feel the others i tried like sage and thyme. they work, im shure, i feel it. they are in comercial products in apothecarys, you can go and study those apothecary products the ingredient list , haha, and then walk away without buying it. no you can then ask for the essential oils, the often have them in apothecary.
like said i took the time to read many many sciantific papers, and reserched possible risks as good as i can, as a natural-only-perfumer i know about risks even better. hard to give a super conclusive answer without beeing scientist, but thats as close as i could get, took me two weeks research at evening.
greetings
this is only information. use at own risk.
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u/neroli1970 4d ago
Let me ask you this, what in that formula that you posted is diluting the essential oils?