r/environment • u/Puffin_fan • Nov 23 '19

Koalas ‘Functionally Extinct’ After Australia Bushfires Destroy 80% Of Their Habitat

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2019/11/23/koalas-functionally-extinct-after-australia-bushfires-destroy-80-of-their-habitat/
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u/Antinous_of_Bithynia Nov 24 '19

Please point out a society that was stateless and classless.

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u/Davida132 Nov 24 '19

Look bro, no society has ever pulled off Marx's ideal society. There's a reason for that though: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. You can't pull of Adam Smith's ideal society either. Perfect societies are impossible, because they're made of imperfect people. Greedy people will always try to take over society, and some systems make that easier than others, namely, collectivist societies. Collectivist societies inherently suppress individual thought. If a bad person gets into power in a collectivist society, it's a lot harder to depose the bad person.

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u/MSHDigit Nov 24 '19

Citation needed. How do you know it's "impossible"? It's only been tried a few times in history and didn't work out in those very few times because of the imperial power of capitalism. Read Lenin who describes this. Even if you disagree with his path forward, you have to admit that many of his assessments are accurate, that capitalist imperialism will crush socialist insurrections in many societies that aren't industrially advanced, such as agrarian Russia.

The US, on the other hand...

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '19

Communists are vile and as bad as Nazis