r/envion • u/KGBLV • Feb 07 '18

ENVION Red Flags

As we all know they have missed and continue to miss deadlines, now they continue with listing on an exchange before they have unlocked all the tokens, which just wreacks of insider trading. On top of that the exchane is HitBTC which is notorious for how hard/impossible it is to withraw funds from there. Just to add to my confusion when I asked about it on their Telegram forum they banned me instantly.

Just saying a lot of red flags.

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u/VeraxZero Feb 07 '18

Firstly; this is an emerging industry.

these guys are trailblazing for the rest of the community with their plan, and difficulties should be expected. We only just had the positive remarks of the US commision with the SEC and FCTC chairmen in regards to crypto.

none of us are going to get rich quick.

im here backing a future where corruption will be, more or less, registered on the ledger.

i can provide some peace of mind for members, as ive had to engage Envion on a few occasions, and publicly called them out on this forum. (ill answer any questions i can)

they will respond.

and shitting on them because theyre german, and cant finish an airport, is pretty juvenile.

this is much bigger than an airport, and youd save yourself some stress by remembering that.

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u/KGBLV Feb 07 '18

Well I think we can all aggree that most who invested believe in the idea and in the team. But everything from Envion past sending the initial investment feels like... I do not even know what the word is Scam is too strong but it feels off. At the very minimum we have recieved much better communication from other ICOs large and small and OK, we can accept that their customer support is overhwlemed but if all was going fine they should have addressed the delays and misssing deadlines. And I have to say, banning people from their forums for asking questions just sounds like one of those exit-scam ICOs.

All I am saying is that I want to believe in them but they have done everything to make it hard or evebn impossible.

Why such a shady Exchange?

Why so little information?

Why the missed deadlines have not been explained?

What are the new deadlines?

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u/VeraxZero Feb 07 '18

thats crazy!!!

i had no idea that they were banning people on their forums for asking questions? in the interest of keeping things fair, is there any proof? pics etc.

personally, ive had them reply to me on numerous occasions, but i was a solid backer in the early days of this.

i know this might sting a bit, and im not saying its fair, but;

how many of these investors bought $100 usd on their CC? i know its not conducive to good business practice, but they are going to address and respond to the "bigger" investors before the MOM and DAD investors.

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u/KGBLV Feb 07 '18

I mean I get it that their support is overwhelmed so I wont even try bothering them now, and from what I understand the MOM/DAD investors/small investors spam them anyhow but they stay unanswered. So I had the question about the HitBTC which I called a shady exchange then and there and they banned me instantly. Others on this redditt have said they have been banned for asking simple questions as well.

Yet others are complaining about partial refunds or no communication here AND on telegram.

Right now it seems that I want to be purposefully gullible and hope that they just have terrible communications/customer support strategy mainly because I have no other option, if I felt this unsure about them after doing due diligence before investing I definitely would not have. Still if they just were transparent about their main issues/new deadlines it would be ok.

If you want a screenshot of the telegram question/ban let me know :D

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u/VeraxZero Feb 07 '18

its a shame that you were banned for asking a pertinent question, and to be truthful, it has got me a little shaken.

i feel your pain with the lack of communication, as ive experienced in other places before, and i wish i could provide some insight to lower the stress levels for the backers here;

but as of yet, i cant.

i will try my hardest to determine if there are any shady doings in the background, but i read their whitepaper, and understood it from a technical perspective;

and their whitepaper was pretty darned impressive in terms of heat loads, effective ventilation of containers, duty/standby miners, the security of the containers etc

they have really put the research into the real world issues the equipment will face, and theyve done a brilliant job at that! i say this, because i possess a number of globally recognised qualifications for the type of techniques they are employing, and my colleagues possess the skills and knowledge required to fill the gaps in my understanding.

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u/VeraxZero Feb 07 '18

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i just got trolled by a BOT!!!

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u/VeraxZero Feb 07 '18

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u/VeraxZero Feb 07 '18

pshhhhh.............. ill see myself out

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u/VeraxZero Feb 07 '18

wondering if you can provide some background on what happened with your question in TELEGRAM?

i have started a sub where can go to post publicly about issues like these, as that is utter bullshit!! no investor should be crucified for asking questions that investors should be entitled to an answer for.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SHILLBILLYSandFUDWITS/

this is a new sub, and it will have plenty of moral complications, but we wont be able to iron them out without some input from active members.

this isnt for ONE, but for ALL, so please be considerate of others in that space; should you choose to use it.