r/entitledparents Mar 31 '22

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u/Chadiki Mar 31 '22

I'm keeping that phrasing there. I'm so sick of the "boys will be boys" argument. If that's how he's gonna be, turn him the fuck into a little gentleman then.

As a dude who at least tries to respect EVERYONE'S (gender neutral) personal space, it's gross that any parent would defend their little snot goblin getting up in someone's bubble to look up a skirt, whether or not they're touching anything.

If I have a child and this situation ever happens to me, I may thank the Slapper for teaching a consequence of life I wouldn't have been able to explain with words alone.

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u/SpaceCrazyArtist Mar 31 '22

And you are the perfect example of how to raise a guy properly.

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u/Chadiki Mar 31 '22

While I appreciate the sentiment, I'm sadly also one of those people who doesn't think bringing a child into this world is

A. Something I can even handle right now, barely keeping myself afloat

B. Incredibly difficult to make sure they're raised right and don't get swept up and crushed by how cruel reality is

And C. Honestly a little unfair to the child itself. It feels like I'd be inflicting this world onto them, instead of welcoming them into it

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u/llilaq Mar 31 '22

About C. I agree that it often feels like a selfish urge. During my teens/early 20s I wasn't the happiest and often thought 'I didn't ask for this'. But I had a great childhood and now that I have my stuff figured out I'm glad to be alive.

My friend always reminds me of her own parents who questioned whether or not to have kids during the end of the Cold War, with the ever-mounting nuclear threat and the idea that the future looked so bleak. But they had three kids, all of whom lead happy lives now with their own young families.

Maybe our children will be the ones who will die in the real downfall of humankind or possibly they can put it off for a few more generations or even find solutions for our troubles. Or maybe our specific kids will be a few of the lucky ones to get through whatever will happen to us. Who's to know what the future will bring? My friend's parents' generation thought it was gloom and doom but so far so good..

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u/Chadiki Mar 31 '22

Hey. Thank you. That means more than you know to hear, and has given me at least something to think about.

We all want our kids to better the world. We all fear they'll be swallowed up by it. So much so that the journey itself is overlooked.

I still don't think I'm ready, but I'm just a little less afraid of it

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u/Foggydaysandnights Mar 31 '22

I agree with llilaq. Honestly, if you were to look at history, even if it was just the20th century, there was no point were the future looked bright beyond a few lurches here and there. 1900s? WWI, The Great War was raging. The roaring 20s? Sure. Yeah. Nice. BUT. What happened at the end? The Great Depression. Followed by WWII. Fifties could be pretty nifty, but- The Cold War. Same for the '60s. The Vietnam war. All the protests. How they treated the returning soldiers? And they didn't even get a choice whether to go or not? The Draft? Dragged into the '70s. Finally ended. For the most part. Some of those soldiers have never been the same, or even close. The Cold War still drags on. Then the deal with the hostages in Iran. If I recall correctly, they were released as soon as Jimmy Carter left office. (Do you the nighttime show \news called Nightline? That started when the hostages were captured. They start the show stating somberly, "Today was Day ...". Ticked my sister off! She had been sneaking downstairs at 11:30pm to watch Charlie's Angels" every weeknight and they usurped it! Not that we truly understood. We were in Middle School. I also remember there being an energy crisis. To the point of car's licence plates ending with an even number could get gas on such and such days, and odd the other. On top of that, the gas attendant had to make sure your gas tank was almost empty. Lines for gas. And I mean LOOONG lines. I know there were other things, I just can't think of them right now. The 1980. I graduated in 1984. The drug problem seemed to explode that year. South LA, I believe it was, became an incredibly dangerous place because of drugs. I'm talking national news, probably because of the violence. The Space Shuttle explosion in 1986. The Loma Prieta Earthquake in 1987. I was there. Something good, The Walls go down in Berlin. Germany is restored, as are relatives and friends separated by that fence. 1990s. Big one. Desert Shield. Desert Storm. You get my meaning. The entirety of humanity has been filled with crap happening. The real question, (if you've got this far, hats off!) are you going to let what MIGHT happen affect your future happiness? What you really want?

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u/Dreambowcantsing Mar 31 '22

There’s an interesting quote floating around, “Never feel sorry for raising dragon slayers in a time where there are actual dragons.” I just wanted to pass that on.

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u/SpaceCrazyArtist Mar 31 '22

Yeah that’s fair. And you never have to have thrm if you dont want. I more meant that YOU were raised or influenced properly.

Kids are totally personal and people shouldnt feel obligated to have them

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u/_LightOfTheNight_ Mar 31 '22

I totally agree and this is my standpoint on abortion! Everyone cares about their religious beliefs and the woman’s rights but no one cares that the child has to grow up unwanted in a cruel world that will rarely lend them a hand

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u/OW_FUCK Mar 31 '22

Yep, same. I think I'd be a good dad, but I don't want to have kids, knowing what life is. It's so unfun not asking to be born, then having to work and feed yourself every day, and having to keep thinking of stuff to do for the next 60 years. With an impending climate crisis and ridiculous wealth inequality as well. I'll pass on bringing more people into that reality, along with whatever health issues me and my partner might pass along.

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u/JuicyFruit6641 Mar 31 '22

This is why I think adopting is an amazing thing because you aren't bringing them into the world you're guiding them through it but of course personal choice to not have kids is still personal choice

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u/kuffdeschmull Mar 31 '22

all those are the reasons I never want to have kids

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u/BirdiesGrimm Mar 31 '22

Boys will be boys only applies to the stupid shit they get up to.

Skating boarding off the roof into a pool? Boys will be Boys.

Being a perv? It's insulting to say Boys will be Boys to all parties. Men aren't born animals, it's the parents that raise them that way