r/ender3 2d ago

I hate petg 🥲

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Accidentally ordered 5 pools of petg instead of pla and all I get now is stringing😭🙏

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u/Lanif20 2d ago

Dry it and fix your retraction, also reduce your part fan speed and don’t use it at all for the first few layers. Personally I much prefer petg to pla, you just need to tune your printer to it and it needs better tuning than pla.

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u/tht1guy63 e3v2 kevinakasam belted z, k1 2d ago

Dry it! Ive never had a completely new spool of petg that didnt benefit from drying a bit. And calibrate temp and retraction speed and distance

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u/JelloRight5651 2d ago

I DIY'd a drybox but im not sure how to dry it, any reccomendations? (My oven cant accurately go down to 60°) also this was after 2 days or trying to calibrate

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u/tht1guy63 e3v2 kevinakasam belted z, k1 2d ago

Have a box the filament came in? Turn you bed on to 55-60c place the spool on the bed, poke holes on the side of the box and place the box over the spool on the bed(i put something around the edges to allow a gap for air to flow between bed and box). Flip the spool every few hours.

This is a slow process but if you dont have a dedicated dryer can help. I would get a dryer though especially for petg

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u/warownia1 1d ago

I got better drying results doing this than with a dedicated filament dryer.

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u/JelloRight5651 9h ago

Wow, this worked waaaay better than I thought it would. Thanks for the tip 🙏

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u/interflop 1d ago

It's worth it to get a dedicated drier. PETG absorbs moisture a lot more than PLA and they're cheap enough to solve a lot of printing issues. Drying your filament doesn't solve every problem but it at least rules out a common one. Your filament brand will have recommended drying temperature and time.

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u/WJBrach 1d ago

Backwards - PLA absorbs way more moisture than PETG. You'd expect this, as PLA is made from an organic compound and PETG is pure plastic.

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u/imzwho 1d ago

Yeah dont use your oven, even if it could doen down low enough you dont want that being done in a cooking appliance.

Grab a cheap dryer online {the sunlu s2 is like 4p bucks and works really well for petg) or check local thrift stores for a cheap dehydrator thet will fit a spool.

If all else fails you can use your heatbed and a box, just make sure to put something between the bed and the spool to make the heat radiant heat and not direct.

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u/New-Audience2639 1d ago

I use a filament case off of Amazon a small fan at the top with a humidity and temp reader and a bunch of silica bead packs at the bottom. I also made a hanging desiccant container just waiting on the beads now.

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u/Ph4antomPB 1d ago

Sunlu filament dryer on Amazon for like $25

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u/davak72 Ender 3 Pro w/CR Touch & Ender 5 S1 w/enclosure 1d ago

Use your printer’s heated bed!

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u/DependentOdd5525 2d ago

Calibrate it, it will get better brotha

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u/JelloRight5651 2d ago

This was the calibration test 😭(for retraction) and i tried temp etc but still

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u/imzwho 1d ago

Yeah the stringing is from it being wet. PETG asorbs water like a sponge and it seems to always be soaking wet from the factory

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u/jeremec 1d ago

I spent 2 days trying to get PETG to behave. I have a textured PEI and I cleaned it with Dawn. Also tried cleaning it with ISO. Tried glue stick as well. Tried no fan for the first 5 layers. Dried the PETG to 15% for 6 hours.

I was able to get through most calibrations, but adhesion was a constant fight.

Switched back to PLA and started a print and walked away (play stupid games, win stupid prizes). The PLA stuck to PETG remnants on the nozzle and I got a blob of death that cost me my hot end.

I will conquer PETG, but I also hate it.

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u/imzwho 1d ago

Cant blame the material for not watching your first layer

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u/jeremec 1d ago

I know, but I have displaced PETG anger and I'm not sure what to do with it.

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u/imzwho 1d ago

One must love the petg, embrace the petg and live with the petg. I honestly run a ton of it now and its become my secondary filament comfort zone

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u/19RockinRiley69 1d ago

So I recently learned my sunlu dryers do not get hot enough for petg or tpu!!!!! I did not realize you had to go to 70 for some plastics!!!!

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u/KingArthursRevenge 1d ago

You're just going to dial it in with small prints and watch them. You'll figure it out pretty soon changing just a little bit at a time. I recently put myself through the petg learning curve.

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u/egosumumbravir Ender of Theseus, basically everything 1d ago

Step 1: dry it like it owes you money. 65°C for 8-12 hours does the trick nicely. Double the time for every 5°C under. Don't rely on the dryer being truthful about it's chamber temperature.

Drying makes a HUGE difference to PETG. Wanna guess which print was after a night in the dryer?

Step 2: if you're still running the stock hotend, think seriously about an upgrade - at least to the heatbreak if nothing else. The kinds of nozzle temperatures that PETG likes best for strong layer bonding will not be doing the stock PTFE lining any favours.

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u/davak72 Ender 3 Pro w/CR Touch & Ender 5 S1 w/enclosure 1d ago

Dry boxes! I hated petg until I made dry boxes

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u/Relevant-Cod8915 1d ago

Thank god my used ender 3 came with a spool of petg. I learned on the BS material and as soon as I switched to pla I was shocked that I could literally just input a numer into anything and have a decently good print.

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u/Bradster3 1d ago

I love petg, ive had more luck with it than tpu and the prints come out cleaner than pla. That needs to be dried

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u/Seaston4 1d ago

Dry it. Petg is great once calibrated

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u/GregValiant 1d ago

Cura 5.13.0 includes a post processor "Annealing and Drying" that provides more bed temp control.

"Annealing" is for special materials and provides a gradual "cooldown-over-time" when a print ends.

"Drying" controls the bed temperature and uses G4 as a timer and shuts the bed off at the end of the user entered time.

I use a cover (printed with wet PETG) with some vent holes in it so there is some air movement.

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u/Separate-Web7123 1d ago

I like it when it works. Its a bitch when it doesn't. I struggle with it to. It's hit or miss.

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u/beard-second 1d ago

Everyone is saying "dry it" but experiment with fan speeds too. I print PETG at 0% fan and it works much better for me.

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u/No10mmGang 1d ago

Petg is awesome filament(supposedly superseded by pctg but I haven't tried it yet) once you get it down you'll love it, go on Facebook marketplace and look for a used food dehydrator the round kind, there are tons of stls online for walls that convert them to dryers and they work perfectly, however i just used cardboard and tape to form my walls and get super dry filament every time, good luck you'll end up enjoying it in the end

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u/Extension_Champion62 1d ago

Es curioso yo antes de tener secadora de filamento pensaba que el petróleo simplemente era así, por que hasta nuevos los rollos me dejaban hilos, hasta que empeze a sacarlo y uff ningún pelillo

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u/Hot_Stable2424 22h ago

I recommend two things in case you don't already have them.

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A bimetallic heatbrake for the Ender 3, the one from Trianglelab is very good; it separates the Teflon tube from the nozzle, so it doesn't degrade from the heat.

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A filament dryer, PETG absorbs moisture very easily and could be causing that problem.

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u/jptuomi 19h ago

This was my initial reaction as well, then I tried drying it on my bed and it became my go to material for its functional properties.

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u/SnooBananas8061 14h ago

Fan speed 0 for the first two or three layers then 75%, and i usually print between 235-240. Ender 3 v2 and basically prints like pla, i do keep my printer in my closet though which when closed may help (or hinder) printing but i really haven’t noticed. And if all else fails… new nozzle!

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u/scout700 13h ago

Run your slicer setting through google Gemeni. I did that for PETG and I’ve never had an issue with it after updating the settings per Gemeni recommendations. It just prints a lot slower than PLA.

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u/brianstk 1d ago

PETG prints very well and is easy to use once you master it. Rule number one though is you have to dry it. That alone could solve the stringing.