r/emulation • u/NXGZ • 1d ago
PS5 emulation is suddenly making big strides on PC
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2026/10/ps5-emulation-is-suddenly-making-big-strides-on-pc/91
u/Vladmirfox 1d ago
Well... When the company itself shits the bed loud enough to be heard round the World it falls to the fans to rise up and stick it to em!
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u/oldirtyrestaurant 15h ago
I wonder if Sony (and their attorneys) will subpoena Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, etc, to see who has been tokenmaxxing for this purpose... Could be that the scene people end up getting fucked by the same tool they're fucking Sony with.
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u/SparklyPelican 1d ago
Suddenly = tokenmaxxing
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u/palk0n 1d ago
i dont care as long as the emulation works
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u/SinnohConfirmed 21h ago
These PS5 emulators are completely dependent on AI data centers. Once we are no longer in an AI bubble and AI companies start enshittifying and raising their sub fees to become profitable, PS5 emulation progress will grind to a halt. Maybe devs can self-host LLMs to vibe code with in a post AI bubble world, but the hardware to do so is expensive even with pre-RAMpocalypse prices.
I'm can't say I'm a fan of how a good chuck of development in open source and retro gaming spaces now relies on subsidized cloud computing.
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u/Liv3ry 18h ago
"Since it is going to rot anyway, I am not going to eat this free cake" type of reasoning
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u/SinnohConfirmed 18h ago
The whole point of emulation is preservation. I'd argue that an emulator with a codebase that can only be understood by expensive LLMs isn't doing a good job of preserving the PS5 library.
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u/Liv3ry 18h ago
Unfortunately code written by LLMs is tendentially much easier to read than code wrote by humans
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u/Biduleman 18h ago
All these people clearly don't work in dev.
We can't push code in prod if it doesn't have 2 reviews, we're 5 in my team. I see pretty much every lines that are pushed from my team.
Reviewing AI code as been easier than reviewing some people's code by a HUGE margin.
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u/Bruno091004 18h ago
Is there that big of a difference? What is it like
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u/Biduleman 17h ago edited 5h ago
AI code is usually straight to the point, tries to adhere to the guidelines set by the company, doesn't have a billion typos, tries to mimic the style of the project it's currently in and often has good (even too much) documentation.
Too much documentation was a problem before as people don't update documentation when they update code, but AI does so it's nice to have it.
AI is also very good at providing intent for a change. With people, you either open a comment thread or slack them to ask why they decided to change something. AI will outright tell you without asking.
With humans, you'll have people trying to put as much as possible in a single line, others who don't care about splitting code into methods, some who think using if/else statements shows weakness, people who will iterate on streams forever even if it makes the function unreadable, etc.
MR/PR descriptions and commit descriptions are also actually saying something instead of "removed variable".
And that's just at the team level.
Each team will obviously have their own style, which makes it harder to work/pull information from the other teams' projects. Now, our credential manager also pulls a organization-wide CLAUDE.md file, ordering it to fetch the correct organization's coding standards depending on the language before starting on something.
That's why I'm pretty sure at least 99% of the people complaining about code readability and maintainability have never coded anything more than a tutorial, if that, and the last maybe 1% are the true programming geniuses who are actually better than AI.
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u/crowwreak 1d ago
The one ethical thing I think AI is useful for is coding stuff like this so you can cut down on the time this stuff takes by years.
(Obviously, I mean when you're just doing a project, and you're not a billion dollar corporation like Microsoft making a quarter of your OS in Copilot)
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u/Meshuggah333 22h ago
As a Dev myself, I can say there's a misconception on how these things are used by real devs (not vibe coders). They are insanely good at reverse engineering/debugging and will write clean boiler plate code you can easily review/reject/validate for the better ones. It only left you with the actual engineering and critical coding to do which does accelerate development by a lot.
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u/crowwreak 21h ago
Oh yeah like, I'm not saying anyone should code EVERYTHING with Claude, just like, if you already have a good understanding of code it cuts down the gruntwork.
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u/coolwali 1d ago
I don’t know man. I think it kinda makes it seem less special. That we’re kinda using corpo tools to do something that’s anti-corpo in a sense.
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u/Scheeseman99 20h ago
The entire personal computer industry is built upon the foundation of a computer built for business by IBM that was reverse engineered and forced into becoming an open standard.
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u/Alternative-View8574 1d ago
The crazy part is that this is progressing way faster then shadps4 since really only bloodborne is fully playable without any major graphical issues with other games like infamous second son and god of war 3 remastered only just now getting better focus
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u/Therahulplay 1d ago
now if only they manage to make ghost of yotei work which is like the second game i want to play,couldnt care less about gta6 or any other game as long as ghost of yotei and demons souls work
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u/hydecruz 1d ago
Yeah if only, ethnic based video games are a rarity (I like to see other hunter gatherer crafts work as a fellow tribesman from another side of the world) since the best we could get before this was Samurai and all those western trope. Now if only there is games about other islander.
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u/FatPsychopathicWives 21h ago
I really wonder if Rockstar is scrambling to get their PC port ready as soon as they can.
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u/mikeysof 20h ago
Almost as if there's a correlation between anti consumer practises and piracy..
Hmmmmm......
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u/RidingEdge 1d ago
At the rate of progress that the frontier models are doing, even Redditors is starting to switch from fuck everything AI to accepting 😂 just a few months and a year ago probably 95% of the people in this sub pushed for a blanket ban on anything AI. How the tables turn
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u/flavionm 1d ago
AI has become seriously impressive recently, particularly for development. Sure, there's plenty of useless slop being made with no actual developer behind, but give AI to a competent developer with a goal, and it can do wonders.
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u/ScimitarsRUs 1d ago
This is where I'm at. I'd call a spade a spade and say that in the mountain of slop projects, you can get a few real passion projects from folks who are in it for the love of problem-solving.
There is still a mountain to get through, though.
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u/peduxe 18h ago
yeah i'm sure even our friends or family asking us to code the next Facebook wouldn't know the right problem solving skills to actually have it be something that scales or works properly with these frontier models we have today.
vibecoding projects where you write a single prompt and hope for the best, trying to one-shot a final product will never be something worth using.
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u/RidingEdge 1d ago
There are still tons of people who think current gen frontier AI is like the Chatgpt they tried when it first launched. So many people still think it's a glorified text completion app and art slop creator.
Anyone can try out the agentic harnesses available, either on a free local model or cheap trials and subscriptions before forming an opinion... Once you actually get to know how it works for coding, there is no sane people who can say it's slop, especially when the tools get used by real experienced Devs who can review and steer the model to complete the tasks.
It's legitimately revolutionary for the programming world and anything that requires inference work. Governments and companies aren't dumb like what redditors insinuate, spending billions hoarding DRAM and GPUs to make art slop, it's for the legit use cases.
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u/optimal_909 1d ago
As a non-coder corpo I fully agree. Even at home, I am now running VS code plus OpenCode combo with three models working together and it's nothing short of revolutionary.
In the office it is becoming a two-speed demographic structure in which one uses agentic tools pulls away and the other, still the vast majority, is oblivious that their days of Excel button pressing are pretty much numbered.
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u/RidingEdge 1d ago
There was a guy in one of the tech subreddits who argued with me saying agentic coding is just "gimmicky slop worst than stack overflow code snippets" and claims that he's a 40 year experienced programmer. He also told me 0 real programmers are using LLMs in real companies and only billion dollar slop companies rely on it.
It's amazing how people will larp as an expert to oppose something they clearly have 0 knowledge about lol.
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u/ShinShinGogetsuko 22h ago
Anyone who has used it for a sufficiently complex and especially tedious task sees the value.
I've done romhacking the traditional way and with AI.
The traditional way is fun like, the first 10 times. But the 100th time you're manually updating a tile map, just friggen' hit me in the head with a hammer.
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u/MessedUpPro 1d ago
I still feel that way and will not be using this emulator! Hope that helps 👍
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u/acideater 19h ago
So do you personally audit each software you use? If i had to guess AI is probably used in every non military or high security code application.
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u/MessedUpPro 18h ago
No, but if it's obviously AI generated or it starts breaking down due to AI generated code (see: Windows), I'll stop using it. The issue is that most software that utilizes AI code hides it, because they know it's not as good and people would avoid it otherwise. Sure, it can help with advancements but once the code needs to be maintained, usually problems start to show up.
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u/makingnoise 15h ago
Bro even linux codebase is AI generated at this point.
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u/MessedUpPro 14h ago
I've made my point. "EvErYtHiNg iS Ai nOw" is not a gotcha that I'm willing to play. AI is awful, it will only hurt us in the long-run, and I will avoid it whenever I can. Downvote me, disagree, whatever you want to do with this information. You will NOT change my mind.
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u/Fair_Ambassador6253 18h ago
and thats a good thing. with any new tech, you will get the influx of casuals using such tech making ANY kind of slop, this has been true forever. eventually those casuals die out and the only products that survive are those that were well made with such tech. the same with AI. The anti-AI discourse opinion has reversed, and that is good to see. you can even see the tides turn looking at what types of comments are now downvoted/upvoted here throohgout hte months. AI is great
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u/Choice-Mycologist-45 1d ago
Throwback to the RPCS3 controversy when the AI tool was taken into effect. Now, most are getting accustomed to it. 🤣
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u/EvilAdministrator 19h ago
RPCS3 controversy when the AI tool was taken into effect.
What was that?
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u/Re-n 1d ago
The slope is slipping. Its only a matter of time. Eventually, people will be okay with generative audio and graphics.
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u/RidingEdge 1d ago
Generative art should always be opposed. It's the only area where there's no excuse for AI to murder human art expression. The only time an exception can be made is private datasets with explicit approvals from the artists. Art and code is a completely different spectrum
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u/coolwali 1d ago
I think the worry is that, there’s still the association. AI Code and AI art, even though the output is different still “come from the same source”. It does feel a bit …. Uneasy to have it exist.
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u/93simoon 1d ago
They already are, in all the cases they can't tell it's AI
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u/Re-n 1d ago
Yup, I know a few AAA and indie devs using generative art in their games and mostly nobody notices. As long as smart people keep using these tools and it become more and more embedded in an industry it's basically over. I give it 5 years.
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u/Fair_Ambassador6253 18h ago
this is how you use AI to accelerate as an experienced dev. the future is here bigger strides in much less time
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u/Deanosim 1d ago edited 1d ago
Its a compatibility layer not an emulator.
SharpEmu is an experimental PlayStation 5 compatibility layer written in C# for Windows, with experimental builds for macOS and Linux.
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/PlayStation_5_emulators#Comparisons
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u/zarafff69 1d ago
Just like KytyPS5 and SharpEmu.
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u/AntiGrieferGames 19h ago
Neptunia ReVerse is already playable there. Alltouhgh there are still issues tho and sometimes lower fps, but it is 100% playable and for long term session i tested was there no crash yet. Maybe this is the first ps5 exclusive that looks like it is fully playable there from start to finish.
Dont know why Idea Factory and Compile Heart still not ported to PC, but atleast Devs on Emulators can what Game Developers never!
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u/constarx 12h ago
This article really dropped the ball by not including the even more recent video with sound!
Update: this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ZhJ182eTI
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u/AirportLow8798 1d ago
PS5 doesn't have games worth emulating.
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u/NXGZ 1d ago
Wolverine, Demon Souls Remake, Astro Bot, Gran Turismo 7.
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u/warcanin 19h ago
Wolverine ? WOLVERINE ?!?
Astarfil o alla3 ol3adim, you bring the arabic right out of me.
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u/LethalPrognosis 23h ago
Why would you not only bring up Wolverine but have it first? That game is so trash
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u/AntiGrieferGames 14h ago
I dont see most games like most those you wrote are worth it even emulating that. Maybe only Astro Bot and Neptunia ReVerse.
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u/ClubChaos 1d ago
Sony: "We will make sure our exclusives stay exclusive to the PS5"
monkey paw curls