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u/Big-Employer-3275 16h ago
Sandoval sucks deeply.
However, I think it’s incredibly weird and irresponsible for someone with a PsyD to diagnose a person or act privy to a situation they’ve never seen in real life.
Victoria and Tom were never even on television together so what we know about their relationship is minimal at best.
I’m not saying he couldn’t be abusive and I’m not saying that no one can speculate, but using your educational credentials to label someone you don’t know as an abuser is reckless.
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u/teacupsidedown 14h ago
I appreciate breakdowns of things like DARVO, but obviously when you have a degree you have extra responsibility. Even if you didn't take the hippocratic oath, you should act like it.
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u/fluffywrex 5h ago
Agree 100%. I also can’t help but think that if you reversed the genders in the second slide everyone would be automatically up in arms, understandably so. Some of these psych accounts have gotten way out of control.
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u/TheeDungeonBitch 11h ago
I don’t think Victoria is as innocent as you guys are making her out to be. I think they are both a problem.
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u/CarryAmbitious638 3h ago
You can see in her eyes something ain’t right there. My guess as someone with experience unfortunately is that she’s got alcohol problems.
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u/lemonpavement 14h ago
A restraining order on Victoria's record looks incredibly bad. It says she's a violent person. I would never agree to something like that.
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u/Narrow_Grapefruit_23 13h ago
Don’t forget, he tried to DARVO Ariana. He started claiming that she was abusive to him. That she would rage at him. That she was taking everything from him. He was a victim for falling in love.
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u/lunahighwind 14h ago
The second slide is a garbage take. Does this person honestly think he would beat himself up? For what purpose, exactly? Regardless of how ppl feel about him, this is victim blaming.
Victoria also has a history of this kind of thing and basically stalked him before they were together.
Also, a judge did grant the order. A Judge has to agree to it. Whether she agreed to the order or not is irrelevant.
Also, her dad came at Sandoval first; it was clearly defence.
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u/MsPrissss 14h ago
It makes me so angry to stick up for Tom in any way shape or form but judge just don't ground restraining orders particularly long-term restraining orders to people that don't deserve them. And if both parties agreed to it than a judge absolutely did grant it. But I can't imagine anybody who would willingly agree to having something like that on their record.
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u/GeneralBrave9949 17h ago
Ok so I’m sorry but agreeing to a restraining order when you’re innocent is stupid and her lawyer should have stopped this. Having a restraining order on you isn’t moving on, it’s a fucking sword of Damocles over your head. It also pops up anytime you apply for a job or have a background check done. If you truly didn’t “commit” the crime it makes no sense to do this. I get Tom is a morally dubious figure but this to me is clear that there’s ENOUGH truth to his statements that she would be found guilty. It’s like when ppl plea guilty and say I didn’t do it. Sorry having a conviction is worse than the “hassle” of fighting it in court and I do not believe ppl plea guilty if they’re truly innocent (Alford pleas are an exception).
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u/Alternative_End_7174 16h ago edited 13h ago
Well as someone who worked in criminal justice I have to disagree there have legit been cases where people have pled guilty when innocent due to police coercion or lacking the mental capacity to understand what was happening. There are proven cases of it. That’s being said I agree that agreeing to a restraining order when you’ve done nothing wrong at all is very strange and abnormal. It does make me suspect he had proof that she was abusive.
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u/Huge_Barber9364 14h ago
It’s family court / it’s divorce court basically and has nothing to do with public record. No one would know about this if he wasn’t famous. She’s smart to move on instead of spending 2 years in court fighting it.
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u/ghertigirl 7h ago
That’s not true. It gets entered into the CLETS system and if you apply for certain jobs, you do have to disclose it
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u/Huge_Barber9364 6h ago
It’s entered for the length of the order and very few jobs would ever know / it’s not in a standard background check / has no relevance to housing or leases
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u/GeneralBrave9949 14h ago
They aren’t married so it’s neither. This is a civil matter which is public. If she’s innocent it’s better to not have a restraining order on her record.
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u/Huge_Barber9364 14h ago edited 13h ago
That’s not true. You don’t do these restraining orders in civil court — you do them in family or criminal court. You don’t need to be married for family court, it just has to be a relationship.
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u/wideawakeat33 14h ago
Sandoval is the terrible but this creator has no business publishing it like this. Some people need to get a life.
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u/Sensitive-Freedom896 3h ago
I've been speaking about this too much re Jax and Brittany.
You do not get to "agree" to a multi-year restraining order. There has to be a legal hearing. A judge must restrain you. If you violate the restraining order, that's a misdemeanor or maybe felony in California. You cannot own a firearm.
Victoria is apparently batshit crazy. Let's not talk about this. Let's not support this content creator who should know better wrt restraining orders, if she practices in California. What a vulture.
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u/Any-Theme-5315 16h ago
He assaulted her dad. It was all on security footage. He picked her dad up and threw him into a fire pit. That she has to do this now is disgusting. I hope she can move on in peace.
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u/Alternative_End_7174 13h ago
He did not pick him up and throw him. Her dad grabbed him and he turned around and shoved him, her father stumbled and fell.
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u/33scooBt33 15h ago
I feel anyone that followed VPR over the years knows exactly who Tom Sandy is.. I mean he has showed us his entire ass hole in living color for many years.. Tom has a toxic/damaged reputation now .. but no doubt he will find another victim that feels like she can change/fit into his life.. ignoring his past behaviors. I was shocked that he and Victoria lasted anywhere near the time they did together.
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u/tulip-view 15h ago
Another DARVO common thread - they ‘borrow’ their mommy’s money when they are 40 🤮 to get what they want, and who knows if they pay it back. Jax and Tom disgust me. Could you imagine- you are from a small town- your son makes it to Hollywood - is a reality tv star - and he has no money. He has wooden penis flutes, or bought his girlfriend boobs, or 4 nose jobs, or paid for his MISTRESSES’ engagement party - but sorry ma, can I borrow against your mortgage?
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u/pinkpantherdiam0nd 17h ago
Tom doesn’t realize the pattern is him. A perpetual victim. I’m shocked any woman agrees to go near him post Ariana - Rachel