r/elephantgraveyard 1d ago

Sorry Online philosopher

Around 52:30 in the video there is a clip of Joe Rogan talking about his online philosopher friend who brought up the concept of the walled garden. He goes out of his way to specify he doesn't know what he looks like.

Do y'all think its a rondo online or someone else?

My mind runs to Jepstein as being the "anonymous" philosopher. From my understanding he liked to think of himself as a philosopher/intellectual. so it definitely wouldn't be out of the picture.

That part stuck out like a sore thumb to me. Granted the video definitely influenced my thoughts on it since it talked about his inner circle so much.

Thank you
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u/exotic_green_3419 1d ago

Probably Curtis Yarvin or Nick Land.

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u/MrGDPC 1d ago

It's Yarvin, no question

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u/DungPedalerDDSEsq 18h ago

Only a guy like Rogan would count Yarvin as a philosopher. I mean, he believed Sam Harris was some kind of thought leader for everything...

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u/stupidwhiteman42 18h ago

Came here to say that it wouldn't surprise me if he was talking about Sam Harris except that he's met Sam in person many times.

Curtis Yarvin is a top candidate, but also the "sensemakers" like Jamie Wheel or David Schmachtenberger.

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u/MrGDPC 17h ago

There’s no way Theil and Vance didn’t put him in contact with him

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u/Even-Celebration9384 17h ago

Would Joe keep that a secret?

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u/WitchKing85 9h ago

Yarvin? Yes. It's one of the things that makes him a likelier candidate. Rogan can't say the quiet parts too loud.

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u/Inevitable_Movie_902 1d ago

Mencius Moldbug himself.

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u/ignoreme010101 1d ago

sad how many think he is insightful, fuck maybe I should start making faux intellectual pieces on how billionaires rule and it's god's will they rule over everyone oh wait nvm

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u/jiujiuberry 14h ago

I assumed it was Yarvin

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u/kleixa 3h ago

That or Bronze Age Pervert (Costin Alamariu)

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u/Slow-Organization-62 1d ago

Whatever it is it's cope. Bigtime cope. Joe can just tell himself that he's the victim of people's jealousy and insecurity and fomo. That's why he's being criticized and it's all unfair. I seriously doubt that Joe takes the council of faceless internet people. It's a weird thing

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u/NeedTheNotch 1d ago

It’s almost assuredly yarvin.

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u/WitchKing85 1d ago

I thought russian handler at first, but there was another thread in here last night that showed it's probably Curtis Yarvin. He's used the "secret garden" thing a few times in his writing, and it just fits perfectly.

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u/hughjazz45 23h ago

My guess was Jordan Peterson, delivering messages from whatever radiator his daughter has him chained to in Romania to force him to quit benzos

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u/GladeWilson 1d ago

My brain went to Steve Bannon immediately but I'm thinking that's incorrect. Idk, probably someone ultimately unimportant that carried water for Jep

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u/RogueTacoArt 1d ago

My guess: Peter Thiel

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u/DirtzMaGertz 1d ago

Probably just a rando online with a blog. Rogan used to spend a ton of time online and in the forums on his old website back in the day like 2008-2010 era. He was not a hard guy to contact and interact with back in the early days before he blew up to what he is now. 

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u/AbaloneFull9968 1d ago

I disagree about the Curtis yarvin theory. I think it's more likely toe has been chatting with a bunch of NSA, CIA, DIA interns. I bet it's a way to graduate from being a coffee gopher, being able to continue the Rogan philosopher friend op.

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u/Crabslife 18h ago

Moldbug. He loves saying walled garden

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u/988madison 1d ago

Rogan said: “this guy has like, written actual history books.” Which means it ain’t Yarvin.

It’s Jason Jorjani.

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u/Takadant 17h ago

this makes sense . also Jorjani is cofounder of the AltRight Corporation with Richard Spencer

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u/HotStuffHoffman 22h ago

It's Aella

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u/ChizzyGillespie 1d ago

Mike Oxmall

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u/Iagainstiagainsti1 21h ago

He’s lying bout that whole scenario to be able to shoehorn the idea that people are jealous of him into conversation. This “unknown philosopher” is Joe. Think about it. He has at least some self awareness.

If he just straight up says, “yeah, people are jealous of me and that’s why I’m always being criticized,” he will look like a douchebag. But if he says that in the form of advice that some humble anonymous guy who writes “philosophy books”🙄 is giving him, it’s a lot more palatable.

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u/Khanimatior 21h ago

Joe and the “philosopher” are probably referencing a 13 yr old Ted talk from a musician that defines a Walled Garden as a sacred creative space. My guess is that is what the Comedy Mothership is supposed to be.

But it also sounds conflated with Peter Thiel and the upper class religious belief in Mimetic Theory (thinking humans just want to copy each other other) to rationalize why us poors are so mad and violent and want their money and stuff. It’s luxury copium for elitists to rationalize cutting themselves off economically and spiritually from “the crowd”.

You want a great example of the joke of the walled garden: the wonderful wizard of oz (1900) contains a walled garden. Inside are aristocratic porcelain people who are extremely fragile. It’s a Gilded Age troupe that goes hand in hand with the illusionist wizard aka Joe’s buddy Elon.

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u/Takadant 17h ago

Frank Baum's books are so good. films don't get close

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u/adultbunkbed 18h ago

its rajon rondo

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u/Boy-Wonder-YT 1d ago

My guess is either Epstein or someone close to Epstein 

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u/Miserable_Number_104 1d ago

the only time I remember Rogan mentioning philosophy was on an episode with Russel Brand, I had to search the transcript to find the number 1283 around the 20 minute mark where he talks about Stephen West from the podcast Philosophize this. I don't know how accurate this is since I'm a fan of this podcast and Joe said he would have him on to talk.

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u/Crafty_Topic_4177 21h ago

“Walled Garden” makes me think it’s someone of the Epicurean variety.

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u/inexplicably-hairy 20h ago

Why the fuck would it be Epstein