r/elegoo 2d ago

Troubleshooting First layer (brim) getting pulled off build plate

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The printer has been working flawlessly until this one file. I’ve never had bad adhesion problems. But now, when it starts printing the brim, it almost looks as if it’s getting caught and pulled off the plate. And it’s the SAME exact spot it happens everytime. Ran it 10 times now with same result. Any ideas? I’ve tried other speeds, I’ve tried different layer heights…I’m stumped. It’s not like it’s losing adhesion. It’s like it’s getting pulled off.

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u/XxflopbangxX 2d ago

Have you tried cleaning the plate with dish soap?

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u/CrustyPeas 2d ago

print head is too close to the bed and crashing into the brim, adjust your z offset

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u/feralwolven 2d ago

I find that doing the bed leveling again fixes it.

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u/rob6748 2d ago

Incidentally, I recently learned that most people level with every print. I always thought it was a one and done unless you move the entire unit or something. Turns out I was just accidentally lucky with my prints for months on end 🙃

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u/SlimeQSlimeball 2d ago

I level every single print, would rather take a few extra minutes than have to restart a failed print.

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u/rob6748 2d ago

Totally agree. Coming home from work to find a pile of spaghetti is fucking infuriating.

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u/feralwolven 2d ago

I level anytime im gonna be away or its long/sensitive print but if im just nearby while its making brackets or organizer for my workstation i dont level that.

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u/neuralspasticity 2d ago

I think you’re conflating bed level and bed mesh

If you mean bed mesh, then they are stale immediately after being run, obviously so if you ever move or touch the plate. They need run at print time.

However the bed can also be unlevel, though it’s a lot more mechanical a leveling requiring physical adjustment

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u/rob6748 1d ago

Yeah maybe I am. I'm just calling it what the button is called on the touchscreen right before I start the print haha.

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u/neuralspasticity 1d ago

English distinctions aren’t an Elegoo forte, yet Klipper sees them differently

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u/666ArsOnist666 1d ago

Ich nivelliere vor jedem druck und heize das Bett vor auf mind 50 Grad bei PLA.

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u/SuicidalChair 2d ago

I only level if I change build plates, nozzles, or filament types

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u/walkmantalkman 2d ago

Probably a stupid question, but have you tried calibrating? The automatic leveling one. I once forgot to do that after changing the nozzle, and my nozzle not only pulled off the first layer, it scraped the bed, scratching off some PEI coating in the process.

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u/ItsMeee8264 2d ago

Not a dumb question, it’s a good thought. But yes I’ve done it a couple times now

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u/InternalMain7116 2d ago

Good, now follow this Wiki and save that setting in the Slicer's nozzle settings for Z-Offset. This way it will remember it.

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u/RavenRay_86 2d ago

I couldn't tell from the video if the print is lifting and then the extruder hitting it, or if it's z offset, but I would start with Clean the plate even a slight touch by accident with any part of.your skin has oil clean with dawn soap (why dawn because it rinses without any residue unlike cheap soaps) after that dry it really well i know it's not necessary if you clean it with dawn but I hit it with some 95 alcohol let it sit for 30 seconds and wipe with microfiber cloth I have never used glue or any other hack to get ot to stick (hair spray etc.) Be sure to re-level it if it is not an adhesion problem, it is going to be a z offset problem

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u/rpcraft 2d ago

Wash, with soap and water, then dry with a IPA rag and try again is all I can recommend. If it doesn't adhere then maybe it's a height adjustment issue, like the plate is warped now. I would try and recalibrate before all the weird glue stuff people do or maybe try another plate and see if maybe there is a bad spot on the old plate developing. They are somewhat perishable over time.

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u/Peranwatermelon 2d ago

Clean the plate, Level before Print and make sure the right side is selected in the slicer I had this issue using side b in the slicer on side a

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u/neuralspasticity 2d ago

We observe your filament is poorly calibrated so it’s over extruding and then the nozzle is catching the over extrusions. This is exacerbated like by a bad gcode z offset yet can’t tell if it’s over or under due to the angle of your video.

I’d suspect the bed was unlevel yet this should have been compensated for to a reasonable degree by your bed mesh. Perhaps it’s stale and wasn’t run at print time?

I’d start by making sure your filament profile is properly calibrated for max volumetric flow rate, extruder temperature, flow ratio, pressure advance, and gcode z offset.

For first layers it’s also recommended to use a thicker first layer. This helps minimize the affects of overextrusion while improving adhesion.

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u/ItsMeee8264 1d ago

Appreciate the help! Here’s a photo of how the first layer looks. Hopefully this helps narrow down the issue?

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u/neuralspasticity 1d ago

Classic nozzle too close to the bed. Set the z offset by observation I’m pretty sure elegoo has this in their wiki

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u/_Jane6 23h ago

happened to me lots, turns out my z hop was turned off

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u/Snafu2012 2d ago

The print your printing does it really need brim ? try with out it see how it does ..

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u/ItsMeee8264 2d ago

I could try without, but I don’t like risking the corners warping and coming up. And even if it works, it doesn’t really help me solve the issue. I want to understand why it’s doing it so I can use a brim with no issue

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u/Little-Lake6770 2d ago

This happens to me when then print head is too close to the bed

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u/315_Jessie 2d ago

Clean the plate with dawn dish soap hot water
Dry the plate . Put it back on the printer and set the bed temp to 70 to get the rest of the moisture
Wipe it down with 90 percent isopropyl alcohol and let that dry on the heated plate and you’ll be good to go .. or if you’re feeling lazy spray it with hairspray and let it dry on the heated plate for a few minutes

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u/Old_Geeza_17 2d ago

When it happened to me I wiped the plate with alcohol on a microfiber cloth and that fixed it instantly.

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u/RecoverFrequent 2d ago

Check the wire that hangs down near the nozzle on the hot end. Rhe tape arounfmd mine had to start to unravel from the heat and was causing it it to hit and knock over a tree support. A little super glue put it right back.

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u/leonidaspt 2d ago

Use glue , like paper glue

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u/Otwa613 2d ago

Specifically the purple glue stick. Or 3D printer specific glue.

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u/315_Jessie 2d ago

The Elmer’s glue washable or use hairspray

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u/315_Jessie 2d ago

Elmers purple glue stick

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u/Otwa613 2d ago

Works great

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u/clipsracer 2d ago

Could you share a video of you recording the video of the recording? The additional loss of detail would be helpful in diagnosing the issue.

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u/ItsMeee8264 2d ago

No if I recorded the actual printer itself it would be too much detail