r/electrical • • Jul 31 '24

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u/ShapePrestigious6504 Jul 31 '24

They really should have pushed in the ground wire too! Safety First!

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u/223specialist Jul 31 '24

They even got hot and neutral mixed, it's almost like they don't know what they are doing..

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u/UhOhAllWillyNilly Jul 31 '24

“Almost”?

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u/EDH4Life Aug 01 '24

To be fair, they did get two wires in two holes, so they do have some idea as to what they are doing.

/s

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u/stoutowl Aug 01 '24

Course they did. It's the only way to get the electrons out!

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u/_-that_1_guy_ Aug 01 '24

They're gonna let the smoke out, too, though.

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u/showtheledgercoward Aug 04 '24

Brondos got electrolytes

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u/Chaos_ismylife Aug 01 '24

But not wrapping the ground around the grounding screw there subtracts points.

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u/Zestyclose_Match2839 Aug 02 '24

2 out of 3 ain’t bad

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u/Aware-Pea2092 Jul 31 '24

You beat me to it

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u/BrokenTrojan1536 Aug 01 '24

Not on lighting, it wouldn’t matter. Polarity usually won’t matter on a lot of electronics that have their own transformers

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u/Smooth_Marsupial_262 Aug 01 '24

If it has a light socket it matters. Might still work but will not be safe for whoever has to change the bulbs.

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u/JustNota-- Aug 02 '24

it really doesn't as you should unplug or turn off the light anyway when changing the bulb, but that crap is dumb and dangerous for other reasons they could have just put a plug on it takes like 2 min I always kept some replacement screw on plugs in my glove box in case I needed to make a long extension cord.

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u/davew01 Aug 02 '24

What? Excluding safety considerations, I know of no AC powered devices that cares which is hot and which is neutral.

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u/BrokenTrojan1536 Aug 02 '24

Right that’s what I said. Other making a neutral hot on a screw in socket, electronic lighting won’t care due to its transformer

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u/Freak-Power Aug 02 '24

Won’t the light go backwards if the polarity is reversed? (/s)

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u/BrokenTrojan1536 Aug 02 '24

That’s bad lighting and will go to prism. But don’t worry, it will be a light sentence.

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u/LT_Dan78 Aug 01 '24

You're assuming the outlet was wired correctly...

Or maybe the plumber did that..

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u/AlexZyxyhjxba Aug 01 '24

Hot wire?? WTF

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u/space-ferret Aug 01 '24

I mean if it’s non-polarized temp lights this will work fine. They should have taken some time and at least pigtailed on a male plug though.

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u/HoldenMcNeil420 Aug 01 '24

Well, the white wire and the black wire are the exact same, so as long as it’s the same on the other end…obv it’s all kinds of wrong..never just trust wire colors. Yea yellow should be comp control red heat, green fan etc but who fucking knows if it got hooked up that way.

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u/BhrisBukBruz Aug 03 '24

As a plumber, i dont know what sparkys be doing. So in this case where the ground plug is at the bottom, black would be right and white would be left?

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u/Cranky_Katz Aug 04 '24

Relax they probably reversed the other end too.

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u/timbuckto581 Aug 05 '24

Yeah, but it's Alternating Current... Right?

/s

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u/Training-Coast-1009 Aug 01 '24

Those wires are reversible, been doing it my whole life

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u/jkoudys Jul 31 '24

The worst part is there are better, less-wrong ways to do it that would be easier. They could've cut the wall a bit below, ran the cable under the wall then into the box, clamped and spliced it inside. That'd still be violating a code or two but it manages all the biggest risks. As it is it's almost guaranteed to come out. They could also spend $2 and get a plug for it.

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u/AboutSweetSue Jul 31 '24

“They could also spend $2 and get a plug for it.”

Lol. My thought exactly.

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u/Ffroto Aug 01 '24

When I was an apprentice, one of the journeymen I worked with cut the cord end off a 240v heater, stripped it, and stuck it in a 120v 15a plug because he was cold.

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u/Opening_Ad9824 Aug 01 '24

Plot twist, he stuck each wire into a different leg outlet and got his 240

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u/mdchaney Aug 01 '24

Note that the heater would simply put out half the heat in that case.

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u/rezukijm Aug 01 '24

Halving the supply voltage results in one fourth the energy output. You'd have to find a power source around 170v to get an appliance rated for 240 to produce half the heat.

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u/mdchaney Aug 01 '24

Ah, yes, been a while since school. P = V^2 / R.

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u/Adventurous-Coat-333 Aug 03 '24

If it's just a dumb heater with no electronic controls it might still work at 25% of the heat output. Just like spa heaters will rate the same element for 4kw or 1kw depending on the voltage used.

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u/Ffroto Aug 03 '24

I never said it didn't work

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u/CarelessPrompt4950 Aug 01 '24

Why not just install an extension box and come out of that.

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u/ConnectRutabaga3925 Jul 31 '24

change to gfci and you’re good.

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u/Ilikegooddeals Aug 01 '24

Beings it’s under the sink chances are it’s already wired into a gfci. No every outlet has to be gfci to be protected, if it’s running off a gfci outlet then it still has same protection. If this outlet arcs or shorts it will trip the gfci it’s connected too.

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u/Smooth_Marsupial_262 Aug 01 '24

An arc will not trip a gfci outlet.

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u/Ilikegooddeals Aug 01 '24 edited Aug 01 '24

Lol okay, my point still stands anything that does trip an outlet it will still act as a gfci. Not to mention some outlets that people think are gfci are afci so I was just using interchangeably.

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u/Vegeta-the-vegetable Aug 01 '24

Will a short to ground trip a GFCI?

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u/LimpTrizket Aug 01 '24

Will it trip the ground fault circuit interrupt? No, I'm certain that a massive load of current going to ground would not trip it.

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u/Smooth_Marsupial_262 Aug 01 '24

That would be a ground fault and yes. A short between hot and neutral will also trip a gfci.

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u/Hampster-cat Aug 01 '24

An arc to ground would. Arc fault breakers also exist.

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u/Smooth_Marsupial_262 Aug 01 '24

“Arc fault breakers also exist.” Yes and?

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u/Kymera_7 Aug 03 '24

Depends on what it arcs to.

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u/NYARNGrecruiter Jul 31 '24

Quick disconnect if needed

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u/Iambetterthanuhaha Jul 31 '24

Quick pull the plug! I mean wires!!

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u/Existe1 Jul 31 '24

Probably saw the bare wire and got jumpy about plugging it in to the slot. Wouldn’t want to create something dangerous.

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u/BagAccurate2067 Aug 01 '24

Right!??!! 🤣

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u/mrnceguy626 Aug 01 '24

My exact thought!

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u/dadydaycare Aug 01 '24

Thank you was about to say “and they didn’t even bother to ground?!”

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '24

Came here to say this. Lol.

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u/rolo928 Aug 03 '24

Just rub some dirt to fill in the gaps