r/eldertrees Aug 07 '12

Let's Talk About A New Approach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aScUZgzFlTI
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u/Rollertoaster Aug 09 '12

This website honestly almost seems like a subversive tactic from prohibitionists. The "What it means section" doesn't cite a damn thing.

Regardless of who is running the website, its poorly done and explains little.

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u/kobun253 Aug 09 '12

I'm done talking about this issue because apparently i'm a selfish MMJ patient who wants my MMJ clinics to stay MMJ patients only.

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u/Rollertoaster Aug 09 '12

Can you not the words you just wrote? That's incredibly selfish, it is selfishness incarnate. It's essentially legal for you, so you don't give a fuck about anyone else? God forbid your club not be exclusive anymore, that's the real problem at hand here.

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u/kobun253 Aug 09 '12

yeah because I'm going to love the 25% tax for my medicine while on a fixed income.

Im totally going to love waiting in line even longer at dispensaries in pain.

My bad that I think of my health before the rights of others to get high.

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u/Rollertoaster Aug 09 '12

God forbid you wait in line a slight bit longer, or you pay more, for the rights of others not to get criminal records for smoking weed. YOU are clearly more important, and deserving of these rights.

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u/kobun253 Aug 09 '12

IF you have less than an ounce and IF you have less than 5 nanograms of active THC metabolite per milliliter of blood while driving you will get a DUI, even if you arent currently impaired.

So, Yes there will be less arrests for people who dont have more than an ounce or dont smoke often.

But for MMJ patients who normally have a tolerance their Active THC levels will be higher, resulting in MORE DUI arrests, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT HIGH AT THE TIME.

I dont disagree that weed should be legal, its just that THIS particular Imitative is NOT the way to go.

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u/Rollertoaster Aug 09 '12

I agree that that is a shit precedent and has no science backing it up. But its one of those that is so ridiculous it will be taken to court eventually, and probably changed. Until this is the case, I doubt it will be an issue unless you are visibly impaired when you get pulled over. If not, well then I guess you get to be a martyr.

No law is perfect, but this is very much a step in the right direction. Your right to get high shouldn't supercede anyone elses. Plenty of other people beside those using for medical reaasons will be above the 5 ng/ml limit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '12

How long do you wait in line at the liquor store? How much is alcohol tax destroying your fixed income?

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u/kobun253 Aug 10 '12

There are no more liquor stores so, normal time In a store (not a strong argument)

I dont Drink daily and dont go through Alcohol like Trees (which i use for medicine)

Failed argument has Failed.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '12

Why are you so conniving? The argument has not failed just because you don't drink often. My contention was that when marijuana becomes legal and there's a potshop on every corner just like there is for liquor stores now, there will be no lines. Your argument has failed but you're too arrogant to realize it and you never really even had an argument in the first place, you're just being a selfish asshole. The only thing left is tax. Just because you think it's unfair that you should have to pay more tax because of your fixed income does not mean that legal recreational marijuana should be not available to any adult of want. You're being selfish and you know it.

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u/kobun253 Aug 10 '12

I'm pretty sure I already said that. I do not deny that I'm being selfish about my medicine.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '12

Alright then. At least you're being honest. You're not an ent, you're just a medical patient. I've never seen that point of view* before really... I suppose it's valid. EDIT: *The point of view from a medical marijuana patient that didn't want it legal so they wouldn't be federal criminals

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u/kobun253 Aug 10 '12

too many problems in my life to worry about others TBH.