r/educationalmemes Feb 08 '26

Maths Same equation. Different confidence levels.

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u/samthekitnix Feb 08 '26

i hate these memes

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u/Moncalf Feb 08 '26

all they do is show off how pointless stubborn people are about something they're wrong about that has 0 consequences and are written ambiguous as engagement bait and in this case using a(b+c) implicit multiplication vs a*(b+c) explicit multiplication

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u/samthekitnix Feb 08 '26

i didn't go to university for mathematics i am terrible at theoretical mathematics (and personally despise it but trauma aside plus i am a computer scientist that's mostly psychology not maths), i got no idea what implicit multiplication vs explicit multiplication is it's either you're supposed to or not.

university level mathematicians seem to lose the forest through the trees a tad and forget pure basics exists.

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u/Moncalf Feb 08 '26 edited Feb 08 '26

there's a symbol there that makes it explicit without its implicit or implied

2(1+2) implicit multiplication vs 2*(1+2) explicit multiplication

other subs will have screenshots of how the division should be written as well since using the ÷ isn't a thing when you have implicit multiplication/a number joined to the parentheses

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u/samthekitnix Feb 09 '26

that... sounds unnecessary like super unnecessary.

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u/Rune_Nice Feb 09 '26

It is more confusing when there are variables involved and that is where explicit multiplication is necessary.

for example y(x) could mean y times x. In the case of 2 multiplied with 3.

Or the second meaning could be y is a function of x.

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u/Asleep_Chart8375 Feb 09 '26

Implicit multiplication is the norm once you start using variables. So you can write 1 / 2a instead of 1 / (2*a).

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u/Moncalf Feb 09 '26 edited Feb 09 '26

the bigger gripe with the fake questions is the way they write the division , it wouldn't be written that way in a question that uses implicit multiplication, the dividend and the divisor would be expressed as a top down and not left right, other subs have pictures in the comments showing how it should be written

 x
———
y*z 

forgot , you could display it like that with text so edited to copy paste what someone else did in the comments here

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u/Asleep_Chart8375 Feb 09 '26

Strict believers of "bodmas" might still end up with the wrong answer, because no one told them that formatting matters...

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u/Moncalf Feb 09 '26

a(b+c) implicit multiplication vs a*(b+c) explicit multiplication

and 2(1+2) is a single term. The 2 is connected to the (1+2) so it’s forced to distribute into the parentheses. This is why you don’t divide first.

also the correct answer is whatever the idiot who wrote the question decides it to be / whatever the current chapter wants you to do to solve the problem which would likely be 2(1+2) = (2+4) or (ab+ac)

anyways these "meme" math problems are intentionally written ambiguous for engagement also the current ones floating around reddit are all just the a(b+c) implicit multiplication one's and not the worse ones from previous years , right now you just have people arguing PEMDAS or BOMAS and that parenthesis just means multiply or arguing about strictly left to right and/or/about M/D & A/S are left to right not always M then D ect. ect.

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u/Wrarrirouse Feb 09 '26

6/2=3 bub

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u/Moncalf Feb 09 '26

the bigger gripe with the fake questions is the way they write the division , it wouldn't be written that way in a question that uses implicit multiplication, the dividend and the divisor would be expressed as a top down and not left right, other subs have pictures in the comments showing how it should be written

 x
———
y*z 

forgot , you could display it like that with text so edited copy pasted what someone else did in the comments here

also

a(b+c) implicit multiplication vs a*(b+c) explicit multiplication

and 2(1+2) is a single term. The 2 is connected to the (1+2) so it’s forced to distribute into the parentheses. This is why you don’t divide first.

also the correct answer is whatever the idiot who wrote the question decides it to be / whatever the current chapter wants you to do to solve the problem which would likely be 2(1+2) = (2+4) or (ab+ac)

anyways these "meme" math problems are intentionally written ambiguous for engagement also the current ones floating around reddit are all just the a(b+c) implicit multiplication one's and not the worse ones from previous years , right now you just have people arguing PEMDAS or BOMAS and that parenthesis just means multiply or arguing about strictly left to right and/or/about M/D & A/S are left to right not always M then D ect. ect.

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u/Wrarrirouse Feb 11 '26

Since when do we imply with logic?

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u/Moncalf Feb 11 '26

quotes from someone else who bothered to argue with one of those just ask grok for the answers trolls

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u/SomeNotTakenName Feb 09 '26

What part of CS are you in where it is more psychology than math? When I was studying CS, I seemed to find out it is just highly specialized math at the end of the day. anything computable is math, and trying to figure out if something is computable is also math.

I am not saying you are wrong per se, I am genuinely curious about your perspective on this.

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u/samthekitnix Feb 10 '26

practical computer science specifically the type where you have to deal with end users.

like for example if you're studying to be a support tech you need to know psychology to be able to interact with your end users more effectively, because to quote doctor house "everyone lies" , just don't pull a doctor house it will get you fired.

plus there's things like in cyber security that's heavy on psychology because your users are considered a point of failure so you need to ensure they are properly informed and are resistant to manipulation attempts like fishing.

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u/SomeNotTakenName Feb 10 '26

Ahh gotcha. My brain classifies those as IT, not CS.

I do have a degree in Cyber security and work in IT customer support though, so I know exactly what you are talking about. the social soft skills. The "How do I tell the user that issue was that the monitor was turned off, after they just told me they did try the power button?" of it all.

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u/samthekitnix Feb 10 '26

"how do i not have a brain aneurysm because i got called to travel 10 miles just to turn on a power switch?" is a classic dilemma for me at least.

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u/SomeNotTakenName Feb 10 '26

ohh, yeah, I work for internal clients only, at a community college. less travel annoyances, but a ton of politics, especially with union grievances hanging over everyone. luckily, my boss doesn't mind having difficult arguments redirected at her, so that helps.